Just in case anyone was on the fence about whether vegans are insane...

[Peter]

What? Why? And not just vegetarianism, but its lunatic cousin veganism?

I am disappoint, p. I knew you had your eccentricities, like a tendency to vote Labour, think Tony Blair is anything other than an oleaginous creep with a messianic complex and worship at the altar of Springsteen, but this? I had essentially always thought of you as having a bottom of good sense. I must now reassess this appraisal.

Is it a woman who's done this to you? In my experience, most mad things men of our age do are at the behest of a woman.

It is a woman's fault (as are all things) but I thought I would indulge it for a brief period. It has turned out to be a lot longer than that but it has significant benefits. I have stopped eating some of the bad stuff, lost a bit of weight and discovered a whole new approach to Indian food. Its been worthwhile.

Obviously, when I am not at home I eat what I like but 80-90% of the time I stick with it. Honestly, the food is fine, even the milk is ok. The only bit that really makesyouwanttostab yourself in both eyes is the endless conversations and the visits to vegan cafes where you are forced to talk about veganism and adopt an air of 'holier than thou' smugness.

She made an aloo gobi and a vegetable madras last night that was as good as anything I have ever tasted. Swings and roundabouts.....

[Burney]

It is a woman's fault (as are all things) but I thought I would indulge it for a brief period. It has turned out to be a lot longer than that but it has significant benefits. I have stopped eating some of the bad stuff, lost a bit of weight and discovered a whole new approach to Indian food. Its been worthwhile.

Obviously, when I am not at home I eat what I like but 80-90% of the time I stick with it. Honestly, the food is fine, even the milk is ok. The only bit that really makesyouwanttostab yourself in both eyes is the endless conversations and the visits to vegan cafes where you are forced to talk about veganism and adopt an air of 'holier than thou' smugness.

She made an aloo gobi and a vegetable madras last night that was as good as anything I have ever tasted. Swings and roundabouts.....

Hmmm. Younger, is she? Sexually athletic? I think we all see what's going on here, p.

[Sir C]

Hmmm. Younger, is she? Sexually athletic? I think we all see what's going on here, p.

Possibly also with roots in the sub-continent, trained in the arts according to the ancient writings.

He's #****struck

[Burney]

Possibly also with roots in the sub-continent, trained in the arts according to the ancient writings.

He's #****struck

Deeply versed in Ayurveda and with an arse you could bounce coins off.

[Peter]

Deeply versed in Ayurveda and with an arse you could bounce coins off.

She is of scouse-jewish ancestry. I would prefer that you stopped talking about her behind.

[Burney]

She is of scouse-jewish ancestry. I would prefer that you stopped talking about her behind.

I wasn't talking about her behind. I was talking about the theoretical bird you were knocking off.

[Pokster]

I wasn't talking about her behind. I was talking about the theoretical bird you were knocking off.

But if he has pics of her behind we might be able to judge if coins would bounce

[Peter]

I wasn't talking about her behind. I was talking about the theoretical bird you were knocking off.

she sounds like a nightmare- apart from the arse.

[Peter]

Hmmm. Younger, is she? Sexually athletic? I think we all see what's going on here, p.

Well she is a little younger, but only five years or so. We have been together 11 years so I am not exactly in the grip of an all consuming lust.

It was important to her to give it a go so I said I would try it for a few weeks. It went ok, she is now very happy with it. It really doesnt bother me- as I have said before, I dont really care about food. And I can still eat what I like when I am out.

The main things that get cut out are cakes, pastries, takeaways- the sort of stuff I shouldn't be eating anyway. I am better and healthier for it, and my suits fit better.

If the odd pig or chicken got a reprieve because of me, good luck to them

[Burney]

Well she is a little younger, but only five years or so. We have been together 11 years so I am not exactly in the grip of an all consuming lust.

It was important to her to give it a go so I said I would try it for a few weeks. It went ok, she is now very happy with it. It really doesnt bother me- as I have said before, I dont really care about food. And I can still eat what I like when I am out.

The main things that get cut out are cakes, pastries, takeaways- the sort of stuff I shouldn't be eating anyway. I am better and healthier for it, and my suits fit better.

If the odd pig or chicken got a reprieve because of me, good luck to them

Fair enough, I suppose. I just get increasingly pïssed off with veganism as an ideology. It's ethically vacuous and involves deriving even less pleasure from our short period in this vale of tears. However, I shan't bother rehashing all the arguments. You know your situation best.