Is the Tory party actually on a mission to alienate every single voter in the country

[Monty92]

Surely we can accept other people's life experiences without endless legislation and discussion about how they need to be treated.

I believe in my own right to not give a **** about other people's life experience. I don't care about your gender, sexual orientation, preferred title, preferred toilet. Indifference is not intolerance.

My foot hurts most days. People just don't understand how it feels. I feel isolated from my community and have nobody to turn to.

No, there is a process of correction that needs to take place; a redressing of the balance that requires totalitarian state intervention. What kind of tolerance is it if a bloke wakes up one morning and decides he feels like being a woman, if he can't then use women's toilets and changing rooms? How is that supposed to make them feel a part of our 'inclusive' society?

The exception to the rule is Islam, which is why we now allow Sharia courts in the UK, even though they openly discriminate against women.

[Burney]

No, there is a process of correction that needs to take place; a redressing of the balance that requires totalitarian state intervention. What kind of tolerance is it if a bloke wakes up one morning and decides he feels like being a woman, if he can't then use women's toilets and changing rooms? How is that supposed to make them feel a part of our 'inclusive' society?

The exception to the rule is Islam, which is why we now allow Sharia courts in the UK, even though they openly discriminate against women.

Apparently, it's transphobic not to want anything to do with their female penīses, m.

It's a rum do when a chap isn't even allowed to turn someone down on the basis that they've got a cock, I reckon.

[Monty92]

Apparently, it's transphobic not to want anything to do with their female penīses, m.

It's a rum do when a chap isn't even allowed to turn someone down on the basis that they've got a cock, I reckon.

I assume you saw the 'conceptual penís' hoax paper that ended up getting peer reviewed by loads of unwitting academics?

[Burney]

I assume you saw the 'conceptual penís' hoax paper that ended up getting peer reviewed by loads of unwitting academics?

Yes. I also liked Toby Young's reply to Andrew Marr on the BBC when Marr said: "So if I changed gender, I could retire earlier?", to which Young replied: "And you'd be the BBC's best-paid woman"

One does feel that, as this stuff starts to collide with real economic and legal realities, it might finally all come crashing down.

[Peter]

No, there is a process of correction that needs to take place; a redressing of the balance that requires totalitarian state intervention. What kind of tolerance is it if a bloke wakes up one morning and decides he feels like being a woman, if he can't then use women's toilets and changing rooms? How is that supposed to make them feel a part of our 'inclusive' society?

The exception to the rule is Islam, which is why we now allow Sharia courts in the UK, even though they openly discriminate against women.

Well, yes. I was reminded the other day that I needed to stop thinking in terms of stereotypes such as men and women. When I pointed out that perhaps we should then abandon the 30 point 'glass ceiling' action plan designed to ensure women have access to top jobs I was accused of wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

We have an annual women's conference. How offensive is that to all these gender benders?

[Monty92]

Well, yes. I was reminded the other day that I needed to stop thinking in terms of stereotypes such as men and women. When I pointed out that perhaps we should then abandon the 30 point 'glass ceiling' action plan designed to ensure women have access to top jobs I was accused of wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

We have an annual women's conference. How offensive is that to all these gender benders?

The interesting thing about this latest Tory announcement is that the gay and transgender communities are all coming out against it, as they believe it represents an existential threat to their own identities.

After all, if sex and gender as as fluid as is claimed, then how can a gay man or woman be gay, if we cannot be sure they are even a man or a woman, and are themselves free to change their mind at the drop of a hat?

[Monty92]

The interesting thing about this latest Tory announcement is that the gay and transgender communities are all coming out against it, as they believe it represents an existential threat to their own identities.

Whoops-a-daisy

[Burney]

The interesting thing about this latest Tory announcement is that the gay and transgender communities are all coming out against it, as they believe it represents an existential threat to their own identities.

After all, if sex and gender as as fluid as is claimed, then how can a gay man or woman be gay, if we cannot be sure they are even a man or a woman, and are themselves free to change their mind at the drop of a hat?

I believe feminists have been making this argument for some time - only to be labelled as Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists for their trouble.

[Monty92]

I believe feminists have been making this argument for some time - only to be labelled as Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists for their trouble.

Indeed. Let's hope this time it all spills over into a bloody sectarian war in which we can look on and hope everyone dies. Like watching Sunnis vs Shias, or Spurs vs Chelsea.

[Peter]

The interesting thing about this latest Tory announcement is that the gay and transgender communities are all coming out against it, as they believe it represents an existential threat to their own identities.

After all, if sex and gender as as fluid as is claimed, then how can a gay man or woman be gay, if we cannot be sure they are even a man or a woman, and are themselves free to change their mind at the drop of a hat?

Surely we are still allowed to identify as our own gender rather than have some huge melting point? It doesn't matter how many weirdos and benders there are, I am still a bloke. You cant deny my right to identify as a geezer.