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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    I would never send him to a Jewish school. Those truly are places of indoctrination.

    Sending him to a CofE school still makes me do a bit of sick in my mouth, but at least it is all light touch and based almost entirely around Christian 'values' rather than any supernatural ****e.

    Our decision was between the non-faith school round the corner and the CofE school, and the latter is demonstrably the better school
    I have a major issue with all faith schools, tbh. Not because I am one of these tedious atheist types, but because I've always felt that their very existence is a tacit admission by the various religions that they are very much in the business of brainwashing children with their nonsense and I really don't believe that ought to be allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I have a major issue with all faith schools, tbh. Not because I am one of these tedious atheist types, but because I've always felt that their very existence is a tacit admission by the various religions that they are very much in the business of brainwashing children with their nonsense and I really don't believe that ought to be allowed.
    As I said, I think this is the case in Jewish faith schools (and certainly Islamic faith schools). But my impression having visited two CofE schools is that the religious aspects of the school are based almost entirely around values and culture. In fact, as the last school I toured, I saw more posters and literature promoting "British values" (a Michael Gove initiative) than anything explicitly religious.

    I didn't go to a faith school but we still had prayer assemblies each morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    As I said, I think this is the case in Jewish faith schools (and certainly Islamic faith schools). But my impression having visited two CofE schools is that the religious aspects of the school are based almost entirely around values and culture. In fact, as the last school I toured, I saw more posters and literature promoting "British values" (a Michael Gove initiative) than anything explicitly religious.

    I didn't go to a faith school but we still had prayer assemblies each morning
    Oh prayers and hymns are fine. Indeed, they used to be mandatory. However, that's just a bit of fun - nothing really to do with spooky god nonsense - very different to indoctrination becoming part of the curriculum.

    Presumably, the indoctrination in Jewish schools is of the 'How to control international finance and media in order to subjugate the goyim' type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Oh prayers and hymns are fine. Indeed, they used to be mandatory. However, that's just a bit of fun - nothing really to do with spooky god nonsense - very different to indoctrination becoming part of the curriculum.

    Presumably, the indoctrination in Jewish schools is of the 'How to control international finance and media in order to subjugate the goyim' type?
    Well bear in mind we are talking about Primary School. They do have RE lessons, but I don't think they can veer too far from the curriculum without getting into serious trouble.

    The dangers of faith schools come in Secondary School, where schools have created a very sinister loophole whereby certain lessons (e.g. sex education) are not inspected by an Ofsted inspector, but someone who is effectively appointed by the school itself. This gives them the leeway to basically teach anything they like to kids about sex (and we can well imagine what they get taught at Islamic schools) with impunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Well bear in mind we are talking about Primary School. They do have RE lessons, but I don't think they can veer too far from the curriculum without getting into serious trouble.

    The dangers of faith schools come in Secondary School, where schools have created a very sinister loophole whereby certain lessons (e.g. sex education) are not inspected by an Ofsted inspector, but someone who is effectively appointed by the school itself. This gives them the leeway to basically teach anything they like to kids about sex (and we can well imagine what they get taught at Islamic schools) with impunity.
    Yes, yes, but what about the controlling international finance and media bit? Tell us how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Yes, yes, but what about the controlling international finance and media bit? Tell us how that works.
    They'll never let us in on that stuff, a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I have a major issue with all faith schools, tbh. Not because I am one of these tedious atheist types, but because I've always felt that their very existence is a tacit admission by the various religions that they are very much in the business of brainwashing children with their nonsense and I really don't believe that ought to be allowed.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I have a major issue with all faith schools, tbh. Not because I am one of these tedious atheist types, but because I've always felt that their very existence is a tacit admission by the various religions that they are very much in the business of brainwashing children with their nonsense and I really don't believe that ought to be allowed.
    Properly looked at, the real brainwashing ought to happen at home. I mean, a redgunamo will grow up a redgunamo, regardless of what any schoolteachers say. It's just as valuable for my boys to spend the day with me out coursing or playing video games or in the pub. I'm responsible for them, not whichever jumped up borstal they waste their days away at.

    But now nobody has the time or the inclination to actually raise their children, so schools get to be more influential. Increasingly, parents use their kids' education to virtue-signal and to avoid admitting that they've f-ed up.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I have a major issue with all faith schools, tbh. Not because I am one of these tedious atheist types, but because I've always felt that their very existence is a tacit admission by the various religions that they are very much in the business of brainwashing children with their nonsense and I really don't believe that ought to be allowed.
    Its not a faith school, its Church Of England. God is barely even an optional extra in the CofE these days.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Its not a faith school, its Church Of England. God is barely even an optional extra in the CofE these days.
    Well they're enough of a faith to be filthy heretics bound for the lowest pits of hell, p.

    Dirty, protestant bāstards.

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