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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by World's End Stella View Post
    Passing the tests is easy, you stop taking the drugs in advance of the tests so that they clear your system. That's how Ben Johnson, Linford Christie and so many other athletes passed the tests for years. Out of contest testing is fairly easy to avoid as well, although Mo had to miss two tests in the year before London 2012, one away from a 4 year ban.

    The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, I'm afraid PRSB.
    This makes me wonder how there are not more drug test failures in the Premier league.

    I find this very odd. You have 20 teams. let's say 25 players per squad. 500 young lads aged earliest 16 and latest mid 30s, athlete
    cash on the hip. you'd think you'd at least get a few more recreational drug use failures here and there.

    Yet it doesn't seem to happen often. unless they are kept quiet. .

    Year Number of Samples Rule Violations
    2014-15 2286 9

    From the FA.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    This makes me wonder how there are not more drug test failures in the Premier league.

    I find this very odd. You have 20 teams. let's say 25 players per squad. 500 young lads aged earliest 16 and latest mid 30s, athlete
    cash on the hip. you'd think you'd at least get a few more recreational drug use failures here and there.

    Yet it doesn't seem to happen often. unless they are kept quiet. .

    Year Number of Samples Rule Violations
    2014-15 2286 9

    From the FA.
    As Arsene has said, until you do blood testing the screening is not credible as EPO doesn't show in wee-wee tests.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    As Arsene has said, until you do blood testing the screening is not credible as EPO doesn't show in wee-wee tests.
    Strictly speaking I am not sure that is 100% correct.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Strictly speaking I am not sure that is 100% correct.
    The whole of top-level sport is bent. If you think about it, it kind of has to be. Once you accept that premise, everything makes a lot more sense.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The whole of top-level sport is bent. If you think about it, it kind of has to be. Once you accept that premise, everything makes a lot more sense.
    To different degrees within different sports.

    Have to say it does not bother me one jot. The nuances and many definitions of cheating are simply too tiresome to allow oneself to get worked up about.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    To different degrees within different sports.

    Have to say it does not bother me one jot. The nuances and many definitions of cheating are simply too tiresome to allow oneself to get worked up about.
    I think once you accept that there are those at the very top level using unfair means to win, it becomes naive not to realise that it must be well-nigh impossible to win without those artificial advantages. Thus, you have to assume virtually anyone who wins is bent.

    Think about it: Russia was running a state-sponsored doping scheme and only came fourth in the Olympic medals table. What does that suggest to you? It's essentially an arms race that forces everyone to use those means just to compete, so what else are people going to do?

    It doesn't particularly bother me, either. What bothers me is the hypocrisy and naivety of imagining that it's only those guys who cheat and that 'our' guys must be fine.
    Last edited by Burney; 01-10-2017 at 10:13 AM.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post

    Think about it: Russia was running a state-sponsored doping scheme and only came fourth in the Olympic medals table. What does that suggest to you? It's essentially an arms race that forces everyone to use those means just to compete, so what else are people going to do?

    It doesn't particularly bother me, either. What bothers me is the hypocrisy and naivety of imagining that it's only those guys who cheat and that 'our' guys must be fine.
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