Well he can't call an election......needs 2/3 of parliament to vote for it or he needs to get rid of the fixed term Parliamant (majority of 1) to enable him to call one when he likesOriginally Posted by IUFG
Well he can't call an election......needs 2/3 of parliament to vote for it or he needs to get rid of the fixed term Parliamant (majority of 1) to enable him to call one when he likes
Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar
Can someone summarise this mess for me, please? I have lost interest in this story which has now been going on for years.
MPs have put this legislation forward that will mean Boris has to ask the EU to extend the deadline to 31/01 (if it wins, as expected). Boris will then call a GE (or not as I have read in other places?) in the hope of essentially ignoring this legislation (rather makes a mockery of legislation).
If he does hold a GE and wins then will he not be in the same issue as he is now? If he loses then we'll likely remain with Comrade Corbyn at the helm?
I saw the most amazing interview with this Barry Gardiner chap who assured me that the country did not vote to leave with no deal. He seemed utterly certain that this was true.
Funny because when I voted I saw a Remain option and a Leave option with no qualification for either. If I voted Remain and the EU took decisions I didn't like, I was stuck with it. If I voted Leave and I didn't like the way we left, I was stuck with it. I was pretty certain that how it was going to work, wouldn't someone have to be awfully thick to think otherwise?
I now we have a situation where the only offer from the EU has been rejected by Parliament 3 times so the only options left are to Remain or to Leave with no deal. And yet somehow Parliament have convinced themselves leaving with no deal is not what the public want.
Honestly, you couldn't make this lot up if you tried.
I saw the most amazing interview with this Barry Gardiner chap who assured me that the country did not vote to leave with no deal. He seemed utterly certain that this was true.
Funny because when I voted I saw a Remain option and a Leave option with no qualification for either. If I voted Remain and the EU took decisions I didn't like, I was stuck with it. If I voted Leave and I didn't like the way we left, I was stuck with it. I was pretty certain that how it was going to work, wouldn't someone have to be awfully thick to think otherwise?
I now we have a situation where the only offer from the EU has been rejected by Parliament 3 times so the only options left are to Remain or to Leave with no deal. And yet somehow Parliament have convinced themselves leaving with no deal is not what the public want.
Honestly, you couldn't make this lot up if you tried.I voted Leave and that's what I expected to happen. It really didn't seem much more complicated than that. In fact, I assumed we'd leave with no deal and would then negotiate separate deals
I am not sure that the leave campaign really thought things through (EU not letting them have their way on the Irish border issue/divorce bill/where numbers like £350m a week/month/year for the NHS actually came from). The vast majority certainly wouldn't have a clue about the consequences of leaving without a deal.I saw the most amazing interview with this Barry Gardiner chap who assured me that the country did not vote to leave with no deal. He seemed utterly certain that this was true.
Funny because when I voted I saw a Remain option and a Leave option with no qualification for either. If I voted Remain and the EU took decisions I didn't like, I was stuck with it. If I voted Leave and I didn't like the way we left, I was stuck with it. I was pretty certain that how it was going to work, wouldn't someone have to be awfully thick to think otherwise?
I now we have a situation where the only offer from the EU has been rejected by Parliament 3 times so the only options left are to Remain or to Leave with no deal. And yet somehow Parliament have convinced themselves leaving with no deal is not what the public want.
Honestly, you couldn't make this lot up if you tried.
All of the above takes this back to Cameron. How he decided to let the people make decisions that most are too ill-informed to make is beyond me. Do we not have MPs for exactly this reason - to make the sensible decisions for the country?
Can I skip the deconstruction of this piece of demos-phobic ****tery and proceed straight to the vitriolic, personal abuse?
The UK is a democracy, not an electocracy, r. Well, I think it might be a democratic system we have...
“Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”
Quite. This notion that a vote for an MP is a blank cheque is a particularly stupid one.
It's really not that complicated, though. People decided they want to live in an independent, self-governing and above all democratic nation state rather than be in the EU.
That's it. The issue itself is remarkably simple and we are all legitimately capable of making a choice about it.
I appreciate that is why you voted Leave. However, I think the majority of your fellow leavers may have voted based on some mis-guided beliefs of what a Post-Brexit land would look like.
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