That Trudeau chap is great. He seems to have spent his last week or so

[Burney]

I doubt it. There is a woman here who has never heard of Bob Marley.

How can you work in a University and not have heard of Bob Marley? Is there not a poster of him on every student's wall?

But back to this unconscious bias business. If you fail, what are you supposed to do? Go away and promise to work on your unconscious?

[Peter]

How can you work in a University and not have heard of Bob Marley? Is there not a poster of him on every student's wall?

But back to this unconscious bias business. If you fail, what are you supposed to do? Go away and promise to work on your unconscious?

You have to speak to HR about your issues. They interview to establish whether you are a modern day Hitler.

THe woman who has to interview me knows me quite well and is dreading the meeting. With good reason

[Burney]

You have to speak to HR about your issues. They interview to establish whether you are a modern day Hitler.

THe woman who has to interview me knows me quite well and is dreading the meeting. With good reason

And what if it turns out you are a modern day Hitler? Or at least your unconscious self is? Can you be sacked for being an unconscious Hitler?

[Monty92]

And what if it turns out you are a modern day Hitler? Or at least your unconscious self is? Can you be sacked for being an unconscious Hitler?

That lecturer chick in Canada (Lindsay Sheperd?) was told that showing her students videos of Jordan Peterson without explicitly telling them that his beliefs are wrong and morally repugnant is akin to showing them videos of "Hitler....or Milo Yiannopoulos" and doing the same.

[Peter]

And what if it turns out you are a modern day Hitler? Or at least your unconscious self is? Can you be sacked for being an unconscious Hitler?

In theory, yes. I signed up to our 'Values' when I was appointed so if I was found to be in contravention of those I could be dismissed. However, they would have to prove that my beliefs were in contravention, not my unconscious self.

We had the same issue over the Prevent training after I not only failed the test but also acknowledged that I held extremist views. when we met about that I explained that some of my views on animal rights might be considered extreme but that in the main I didnt want to restrict myself to views that others would find tolerable,andwanted to reserve the right to hold my views however unfashionable or unpalatable others might find them.

They said I might be overthinking some of this.....

[Monty92]

In theory, yes. I signed up to our 'Values' when I was appointed so if I was found to be in contravention of those I could be dismissed. However, they would have to prove that my beliefs were in contravention, not my unconscious self.

We had the same issue over the Prevent training after I not only failed the test but also acknowledged that I held extremist views. when we met about that I explained that some of my views on animal rights might be considered extreme but that in the main I didnt want to restrict myself to views that others would find tolerable,andwanted to reserve the right to hold my views however unfashionable or unpalatable others might find them.

They said I might be overthinking some of this.....

I'd have thought you'd be right up their Straße on Prevent, what with your rank apologism n'all.

[Peter]

I'd have thought you'd be right up their Straße on Prevent, what with your rank apologism n'all.

I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

[Burney]

I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

So they think you're an islamophobe, too?

[Monty92]

I wanted them to confront the issue of radical islamic terrorism head on and take a stand on what would and wouldnt be tolerated, in the name of defending democracy, free speech, poofs etc....


What we got was a pathetic excuse for policy which didnt mention belief-based extremism even in the abstract and played along with the notion that all ideas are welcome as long as they are not 'extreme'- without any detail as to what does and doesnt constitute extremism and who decides.


I am not having that.

I think tearing down the grand narrative of religious dogma may be slightly beyond the remit of the Home Office, tbh.

[Burney]

In theory, yes. I signed up to our 'Values' when I was appointed so if I was found to be in contravention of those I could be dismissed. However, they would have to prove that my beliefs were in contravention, not my unconscious self.

We had the same issue over the Prevent training after I not only failed the test but also acknowledged that I held extremist views. when we met about that I explained that some of my views on animal rights might be considered extreme but that in the main I didnt want to restrict myself to views that others would find tolerable,andwanted to reserve the right to hold my views however unfashionable or unpalatable others might find them.

They said I might be overthinking some of this.....

When in fact they haven't been thinking at all.