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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Isn't there evidence that shows the most virulent anti-immigration protests are in areas where there are few migrants - as in the success of AfD in East Germany where there is very little
    There's no inherent contradiction there, though. Those who have small levels or no immigration are still in a position to do something to stop it and are thus most motivated to act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    There's no inherent contradiction there, though. Those who have small levels or no immigration are still in a position to do something to stop it and are thus most motivated to act.
    Oh, I wasn't saying there was - just interesting as a counterpoint to Monty's London take on things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Oh, I wasn't saying there was - just interesting as a counterpoint to Monty's London take on things.
    The other way in which London is exceptional, of course, is the fact is that those who identify as white British people are now a minority there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The other way in which London is exceptional, of course, is the fact is that those who identify as white British people are now a minority there.
    Not that colour has anything to do with immigration, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Not that colour has anything to do with immigration, of course.
    In a country that is overwhelminglyy white British and has been ethnically homogenous for all but the last 70-odd years, would you not say that it's at the very least significant that the capital city is now completely ethnically anomalous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    In a country that is overwhelminglyy white British and has been ethnically homogenous for all but the last 70-odd years, would you not say that it's at the very least significant that the capital city is now completely ethnically anomalous?
    I would say it is the story of London which has not been ethnically homogenous for more than a century. I would also politely suggest that if you are going to chuck in the West Indian immigrants we should probably go back to European jewry who started arriving in London in the 19th century.

    The difference between their arrival and the West indians is actually that the West Indians didnt all move to London. The continuing story of our reaction to immigration shows you that it only really becomes a problem when they go outside London.

    As you said previously, London is equipped to deal with mass immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I would say it is the story of London which has not been ethnically homogenous for more than a century. I would also politely suggest that if you are going to chuck in the West Indian immigrants we should probably go back to European jewry who started arriving in London in the 19th century.

    The difference between their arrival and the West indians is actually that the West Indians didnt all move to London. The continuing story of our reaction to immigration shows you that it only really becomes a problem when they go outside London.

    As you said previously, London is equipped to deal with mass immigration.
    The Jews didn't all move to London, either. There were significant Jewish populations in Leeds, Bradford and Manchester. Marks & Spencer and Montague Burton were both Leeds-based.

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