Not really sure why everyone's acting all shocked about the AfD gains in Germany.

[Burney]

I would have thought the irony was that Germany's attempt to behave well and move on from their past has led directly to the rise of an extreme far right party.

Quite funny seeing you both accept that Austria and Germany are different countries. I mean, they are for now, but.....

I wont pick up on several of the points you make there regarding immigration and muslims because we have done this to death.

Not really an irony so much as an entirely predictable case of cause and effect. Newton's Third Law and all that.