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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    ‘This wasn’t a race issue’

    I’m afraid the only logical conclusion here is that you are a moron. My commiserations.
    It's a race issue only insofar as it took place in a hyper-racialised context. First and foremost it's actually a police misconduct issue.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It's a race issue only insofar as it took place in a hyper-racialised context. First and foremost it's actually a police misconduct issue.
    If the police misconduct occurs disproportionately against blacks it becomes a racial issue.

    Although it was his attempt to apportion some of the blame to George Floyd that I found really offensive. As I said, he’s a moron.

    Is he a septic?

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    If the police misconduct occurs disproportionately against blacks it becomes a racial issue.

    Although it was his attempt to apportion some of the blame to George Floyd that I found really offensive. As I said, he’s a moron.

    Is he a septic?
    But it doesn't occur 'disproportionately' to black people. It occurs in pretty much exactly the proportions you'd expect it to occur relative to the size of populations and their relative likelihood to commit violent crime.
    Do young black men have reason to be wary of cops in the US? Yes.
    Do cops have just as much (if not more) reason to be wary of young black men in the US. Abso-f@cking-lutely. They are much more likely to be killed by a young black male, so guess what? They tend to treat young black males with much more suspicion and more robustly. As a result, young black men harbour ever more anger and resentment towards the police and behave in ways much more likely to bring them to the attention of the police. And so it goes on...

    This is a vicious cycle that is only going to be made worse by treating it as a racial issue.
    Last edited by Burney; 06-04-2020 at 09:30 AM.

  4. #4
    I'm fairness, it does occur disproportionately to me. The one and only time I ever fronted up to a policeman, I promptly married her


    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    But it doesn't occur 'disproportionately' to black people. It occurs in pretty much exactly the proportions you'd expect it to occur relative to the size of populations and their relative likelihood to commit violent crime.
    Do young black men have reason to be wary of cops in the US? Yes.
    Do cops have just as much (if not more) reason to be wary of young black men in the US. Abso-f@cking-lutely. They are much more likely to be killed by a young black male, so guess what? They tend to treat young black males with much more suspicion and more robustly. As a result, young black men harbour ever more anger and resentment towards the police and behave in ways much more likely to bring them to the attention of the police. And so it goes on...

    This is a vicious cycle that is only going to be made worse by treating it as a racial issue.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    If the police misconduct occurs disproportionately against blacks it becomes a racial issue.

    Although it was his attempt to apportion some of the blame to George Floyd that I found really offensive. As I said, he’s a moron.

    Is he a septic?
    Personally I find it absolutely shocking that the biggest killer of young black males in the US is the police!

    Wait. Hold on. No it isn't. It's other young black males.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to demonstrate against, you know, young black males?

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Personally I find it absolutely shocking that the biggest killer of young black males in the US is the police!

    Wait. Hold on. No it isn't. It's other young black males.

    Wouldn't it make more sense to demonstrate against, you know, young black males?
    A situation, of course, which is perpetuated by the persistent demonisation of the police, which makes it harder to police black communities because there is less co-operation from the populace. So you get lawlessness and a sense of lack of consequences, which makes murder much, much more likely.

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