So given there's almost certainly going to be further horse trading between

[Monty92]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge

[IUFG]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge

is he still Tory bashing on Twitter?

[Burney]

is he still Tory bashing on Twitter?

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat.

[Monty92]

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat.

He was ripping Boris for the upside down wreath the other day.

If I were agitating to put Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10, I'd be avoiding all mention of wreaths...

[IUFG]

Just had a look. He's calling everyone Russian agents, which is the last step before smearing yourself in your own excrement and wearing a tinfoil hat.

I thought it was all about the Tories selling out the UK to the good ol' USofA

Could the lefties please make their fúcking minds up?

[Burney]

the Brexit Party and the Tories to allow Farage a clear run at a handful of winnable Labour Leave seats and and the Tories a massive chunk of winnable marginals, it's looking pretty f*cking good for Boris right now.

I'm certainly not counting my chickens yet, but.....but.....

Poor Jorge

That's my tentative take, too. And, judging by the number of remainers running around shítting themselves at the moment, they were banking on BP as their last hope.
Seriously, you've now got remain die-hards who are also trenchant critics of Corbyn's anti-semitism like Nick Cohen and David Aaronovitch advocating Lib/Lab pacts that would put Corbyn in Number 10. They're that panicked.

You love to see it.

[Monty92]

That's my tentative take, too. And, judging by the number of remainers running around shítting themselves at the moment, they were banking on BP as their last hope.
Seriously, you've now got remain die-hards who are also trenchant critics of Corbyn's anti-semitism like Nick Cohen and David Aaronovitch advocating Lib/Lab pacts that would put Corbyn in Number 10. They're that panicked.

You love to see it.

I don't really see that Labour have any cards to play to counter it, either. I might be wrong, but it feels like they've dug themselves in too deep to enter a meaningful remain alliance. They'll basically be left hoping for a catastrophic Tory scandal, which is, of course, eminently possible...

If the polls start creeping up for the Tories over the coming days, it will be tempting to think they're home and dry

This could - COULD - be beautiful.

[Burney]

I don't really see that Labour have any cards to play to counter it, either. I might be wrong, but it feels like they've dug themselves in too deep to enter a meaningful remain alliance. They'll basically be left hoping for a catastrophic Tory scandal, which is, of course, eminently possible...

If the polls start showing the Tories creeping up over the coming days, it will be tempting to think they're home and dry

This could - COULD - be beautiful.

More importantly, the LibDems won't do it. They agreed to this election because they saw an opportunity to gain seats from both Labour and the Tories by having an election pre-Brexit (stopping which is the only one of their policies their voters actually care about). They're not going to risk the prospect of getting back to 2010 numbers of MPs by getting into bed with Corbyn.

I am too terrified of the alternative to risk confidence, but if I were truly objective and had to make a bet, it'd only be one way.

[Monty92]

More importantly, the LibDems won't do it. They agreed to this election because they saw an opportunity to gain seats from both Labour and the Tories by having an election pre-Brexit (stopping which is the only one of their policies their voters actually care about). They're not going to risk the prospect of getting back to 2010 numbers of MPs by getting into bed with Corbyn.

I am too terrified of the alternative to risk confidence, but if I were truly objective and had to make a bet, it'd only be one way.

I think this is where the defection of yer Bergers and yer Umunnas to the Lib Dems has helped too. Given their stance on Corbyn, I'm fairly sure they would only have countenanced joining the LDs with an explicit assurance that the LDs wouldn't endorse Corbyn either in a Government of National Unity or as any kind of coalition partner.

Of course what this also means is that despite their entire shtick being about stopping Brexit, their anti-Corbyn policy is very likely going to enable Brexit by splitting the remain vote.

And millions wanting to stop Brexit will still vote for them. Thick c*nts.

[Burney]

I think this is where the defection of yer Bergers and yer Umunnas to the Lib Dems has helped too. Given their stance on Corbyn, I'm fairly sure they would only have countenanced joining the LDs with an explicit assurance that the LDs wouldn't endorse Corbyn either in a Government of National Unity or as any kind of coalition partner.

Of course what this also means is that despite their entire shtick being about stopping Brexit, their anti-Corbyn policy is very likely going to enable Brexit by splitting the remain vote.

And millions wanting to stop Brexit will still vote for them. Thick c*nts.

I do find it funny the way nobody has called out just how cynical the LDs and SNP were in agreeing to this election (and thus effectively hanging Labour out to dry). After all, their best chance of stopping Brexit was keeping an impotent government in power and playing the waiting game.
Instead, for their respective, entirely party-political reasons (LDs seeing an advantage and SNP wanting to have an election before everyone finds out just how much Wee Jimmy Krankie knew about Salmond's nasty sexcapades), they basically abandoned their precious goal of remaining. Really outrageous cynicism, but nobody says anything, preferring to talk about Boris putting party before country. Amazing stuff.