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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Starc (famous last words) isn't actually that dangerous in English conditions though. Can't bowl with a Duke ball. Hazelwood may be more of an issue. Interesting, if seems likely, Roy opens. Just needs to come off once or twice and he could have a real effect on the series imo. Genuinely can't think of who we can pick at 3 (Joe? Joe? ARE YOU LISTENING JOE?). Mind you, Jimmy versus their top order shouldn't be a long contest either
    As regards Root, I find it odd that people are so happy to compare his average as a number 3 unfavourably with that when he bats 4 and put it down to place in the batting order, but ignore the fact that this decline also coincided with him becoming captain.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    As regards Root, I find it odd that people are so happy to compare his average as a number 3 unfavourably with that when he bats 4 and put it down to place in the batting order, but ignore the fact that this decline also coincided with him becoming captain.
    He was a pretty decent opener ffs. Also his decline is relative - still third most runs of any player in the world last year.

    Almost an argument for Morgan to be brought into the team as captain. Any runs would be a bonus

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    He was a pretty decent opener ffs. Also his decline is relative - still third most runs of any player in the world last year.

    Almost an argument for Morgan to be brought into the team as captain. Any runs would be a bonus
    Specialist captain. These super-batters always seem to lose some of their powers when they become captain.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Specialist captain. These super-batters always seem to lose some of their powers when they become captain.
    Speaking of superbatsmen - are you going to get the chance to see AB at all?

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Speaking of superbatsmen - are you going to get the chance to see AB at all?
    8th August v Surrey.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    8th August v Surrey.
    Nice - we'll probably have been knocked out by then but he'll be good to watch

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Speaking of superbatsmen - are you going to get the chance to see AB at all?
    Allan Border? Bit late for that imo.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Allan Border? Bit late for that imo.
    Never did see him bat - probably didn't miss much. I was thinking the other day of the best XI I had actually seen live. Think I came up with something like this. Bit batting top heavy but didn't want to leave out Crowe. Not sure you need a fifth bowler anyway

    Greenidge
    Cook
    Richards
    Tendulkar (though never saw him bat only field)
    Ponting
    Crowe M
    Gilchrist
    Marshall
    Warne
    Hadlee
    McGrath

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Never did see him bat - probably didn't miss much. I was thinking the other day of the best XI I had actually seen live. Think I came up with something like this. Bit batting top heavy but didn't want to leave out Crowe. Not sure you need a fifth bowler anyway

    Greenidge
    Cook
    Richards
    Tendulkar (though never saw him bat only field)
    Ponting
    Crowe M
    Gilchrist
    Marshall
    Warne
    Hadlee
    McGrath
    I’ve got all those, but I’d be able to put Gavaskar in ahead of Cook.
    Actually, don’t know if this counts, but I saw Sobers play (albeit in an old fúcker’s game at The Oval when he was about 50) and he’d have to get a spot ahead of Ponting -which also sorts your bowling issue out.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Never did see him bat - probably didn't miss much. I was thinking the other day of the best XI I had actually seen live. Think I came up with something like this. Bit batting top heavy but didn't want to leave out Crowe. Not sure you need a fifth bowler anyway

    Greenidge
    Cook
    Richards
    Tendulkar (though never saw him bat only field)
    Ponting
    Crowe M
    Gilchrist
    Marshall
    Warne
    Hadlee
    McGrath
    Surely Jacques Kallis gets in ahead of Crowe?

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