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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    Blacks and Indians play proper sports. Yanks don't. So I know which one I wouldn't be able to integrate with.

    I watched the 2011 CWC final in Guresh and Karla Patel's corner shop off Brixton Hill, with their family, another Indian and a West Indian. Any Septics there? No. So they don't make the effort to integrate and should fück off back where they came from.
    I'm sure you'd accept that these terms are utterly arbitrary and irrational. Given which, why would you decry reasons for refusing to integrate based on race that are equally (or possibly less) arbitrary and irrational?

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I'm sure you'd accept that these terms are utterly arbitrary and irrational. Given which, why would you decry reasons for refusing to integrate based on race that are equally (or possibly less) arbitrary and irrational?
    I don't. I think everyone should do their best to integrate whilst also adding the best of their own culture to the melting pot that is London.

    I want us to have, as a base, the continually evolving British identity, whilst also taking on board the best aspects of all the world's cultures. This gives us stuff like Ska/Two Tone, for example.

    And "proper sports" isn't an arbitrary or irrational term. Ours are pwoppa, yank ones aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    I don't. I think everyone should do their best to integrate whilst also adding the best of their own culture to the melting pot that is London.

    I want us to have, as a base, the continually evolving British identity, whilst also taking on board the best aspects of all the world's cultures. This gives us stuff like Ska/Two Tone, for example.

    And "proper sports" isn't an arbitrary or irrational term. Ours are pwoppa, yank ones aren't.
    A continually evolving identity is not an identity at all. It is, in fact, the denial of identity.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    A continually evolving identity is not an identity at all. It is, in fact, the denial of identity.
    So your personal identity hasn't changed during your life?

    Of course what it means to be British has changed over the centuries. Think in terms of religion alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    So your personal identity hasn't changed during your life?

    Of course what it means to be British has changed over the centuries. Think in terms of religion alone.
    Over the centuries, yes. Over the space of a few years is a quite different matter. This, in fact, is the great divide in our country now - between the big cities and everywhere else, basically. The real England exists outside the cities - a fact reflected constantly in voting patterns.

    I would recommend 'The Road To Somewhere' by David Goodhart on this subject.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Road-Somewh.../dp/1849047995
    Last edited by Burney; 05-29-2019 at 03:53 PM.

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