Man fúcks off from England to foreign country. Complains about forriners in England...Originally Posted by Burney
He's clearly reached the 'No longer gives a fúck' stage of life, god bless him.
He's no better than those píssed up Jocks in London pubs telling everyone how shít England is and how wonderful Scotland is.
“Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”
He's not 'complaining', he's pointing out the fact that London is now by some distance a majority non-indigenous city. That is, quite simply, a fact. And it is a fact that those who can remember London as an English city have a right to feel rather ambivalent about.Man fúcks off from England to foreign country. Complains about forriners in England...
He's no better than those píssed up Jocks in London pubs telling everyone how shít England is and how wonderful Scotland is.
And where he lives is irrelevant to all that.
Saying it over and over doesn't make something a fact. It is only a fact when it can be backed up by numbers.
Did he show how he reached his conclusion?
"Scoring a goal is better than sex" - Whoever said that was sticking it to the wrong woman
A quick google shows that according to the 2011 census 36.7% of Londoners were foreign born.
No idea what it is now but a jump to > 50% in 8 years would seem pretty surprising
Non-indigenous does not mean foreign-born.
And, by the way, 36.7% of your capital's population being foreign-born is an absolutely fúcking massive number. And, given our immigration rates over the last 8 years, plus white flight, plus the fact that the vast majority of migrants will gravitate to London because that's where the jobs are, a rate of 50% is by no means out of the question by the time of the next census in 2021.
Last edited by Burney; 05-29-2019 at 01:10 PM.
What does it mean in this context then? Non-white? Non-white and non Anglo Saxon?
Non-indigenous does not mean foreign-born.
And, by the way, 36.7% of your capital's population being foreign-born is an absolutely fúcking massive number. And, given our immigration rates over the last 8 years, plus white flight, plus the fact that the vast majority of migrants will gravitate to London because that's where the jobs are, a rate of 50% is by no means out of the question by the time of the next census in 2021.
I'm afraid I can only take it seriously if it was intended to mean foreign born. Otherwise it's just a silly, antiquated thought process imo.
It's not a tough concept to grasp. The indigenous peoples of this nation are white and speak English as a first language. Such people make up 87% of the country's population. That they should now be in a significant minority in their nation's capital is an extraordinary thing. That such change has occurred in just 60 or 70 years is mind-blowing. The tendency to try and dismiss people who express concern or disquiet at such staggering demographic change as racist or antiquated is dishonest. Cleese is correct. London is no longer predominantly inhabited by indigenous (ie white and speaking English as a first language) people. Thus, London is no longer an English city.
Non-indigenous does not mean foreign-born.
And, by the way, 36.7% of your capital's population being foreign-born is an absolutely fúcking massive number. And, given our immigration rates over the last 8 years, plus white flight, plus the fact that the vast majority of migrants will gravitate to London because that's where the jobs are, a rate of 50% is by no means out of the question by the time of the next census in 2021.
What do we define as non-indigenous?
London has been home to foreign settlers for centuries. Where do we draw the line as saying that non-indigenous becomes indigenous?
"Scoring a goal is better than sex" - Whoever said that was sticking it to the wrong woman
Which is where it stops being a fact and becomes completely reliant on subjective parameters. For instance, how do you factor in northerners? They shouldn't be here....
That said, 36% foreign born is quite high.
Being home to foreign settlers and them and their children being in the overwhelming majority are two very different things.
And this country's 'melting pot' history is largely balls, btw. Up until the mid-20th century, the ethnic make-up of this country was massively homogeneous.
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