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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    That makes no sense, I'm afraid. Why would remain still be an option having already been democratically rejected in 2016? The fact that we are where we are is a function of our executive and legislature's collective incompetence. Why should leave voters who expected competence be disenfranchised for that?
    That assumes that Leave voters are willing to accept a no deal exit - the premise was that if they aren't and that is the only Leave option available etc etc

    Not that it really matters of course because I can't see no deal happening. What I can see happening is parliament taking control of the process - somehow - and accepting a watered down version of Brexit that crosses almost all of May's red lines. It will be amusing to see what the ERG has to say at that point.

    This really is very good fun, I don't think I've ever paid as much attention to politics. It's like a play that no one would write because no one would think it believable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    That assumes that Leave voters are willing to accept a no deal exit - the premise was that if they aren't and that is the only Leave option available etc etc

    Not that it really matters of course because I can't see no deal happening. What I can see happening is parliament taking control of the process - somehow - and accepting a watered down version of Brexit that crosses almost all of May's red lines. It will be amusing to see what the ERG has to say at that point.

    This really is very good fun, I don't think I've ever paid as much attention to politics. It's like a play that no one would write because no one would think it believable.
    Yes, but that premise is fundamentally unsound.

    I think the most depressing thing is that it's all so woefully short-sighted. Everyone is fighting to 'win' the battlefield and is giving absolutely no thought to what that battlefield will look like when the fighting eventually stops - or what they'll do with it. Remainers won't survive the backlash of failing to deliver Brexit, but don't want to acknowledge the fact, while many of those at the other extreme seem happier to be permanent rebels than compromise on anything.
    Meanwhile, those who have proudly styled themselves centrists have revealed themselves to be self-serving shysters with no principles other than maintaining a cozy status quo and who would be as home on the left of the tory party as on the right of the Labour party.
    The one upside is that it has revealed our current party and electoral system to be wholly unfit for the purpose of coping with the defining political issue of our time. The 'big tent' two-party system cannot survive this.
    Last edited by Burney; 03-25-2019 at 11:12 AM.

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