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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Explain to me how you come to the conclusion that Remain would win next time? This feels like the same logic that told us it was guaranteed to win last time...
    People know now what May’s deal entails and can see that virtually everything they were promised is a lie. There are now 15-17 year olds that can now vote (and young people were shown to vote remain very convincingly). A lot of old people have died since the vote. People have perhaps realised that we obviously are better together and may be hopeful of future EU Reform which seems likely.

    I could go on?

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    People know now what May’s deal entails and can see that virtually everything they were promised is a lie. There are now 15-17 year olds that can now vote (and young people were shown to vote remain very convincingly). A lot of old people have died since the vote. People have perhaps realised that we obviously are better together and may be hopeful of future EU Reform which seems likely.

    I could go on?
    You are Will Straw and I claim my £10.

    'Better together'! Fvck me.

    Also, any strategy that relies on turning out the youth vote is royally fvcked.

    They. Don't. Vote.
    Last edited by Burney; 03-12-2019 at 05:52 PM.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post

    Also, any strategy that relies on turning out the youth vote is royally fvcked.
    They. Don't. Vote.
    I thought it was Labour's success in using social media to mobilise yoot vote that explained why so many pompous old Tory tossers were so wide of the mark in their predictions for the last GE

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
    I thought it was Labour's success in using social media to mobilise yoot vote that explained why so many pompous old Tory tossers were so wide of the mark in their predictions for the last GE
    The so-called 'Youth quake'? Nope. Completely debunked,.I'm afraid. What boosted Labour at the last GE was middle-aged, middle-class Remainers voting Labour as an anti-Brexit protest vote.

    Thick fùckers thought Labour was an anti-Brexit party

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The so-called 'Youth quake'? Nope. Completely debunked
    Debunked! When and by whom? A link if you would b. I'm going to actually call out your anecdotal assertions.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
    Debunked! When and by whom? A link if you would b. I'm going to actually call out your anecdotal assertions.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42747342

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    People know now what May’s deal entails and can see that virtually everything they were promised is a lie. There are now 15-17 year olds that can now vote (and young people were shown to vote remain very convincingly). A lot of old people have died since the vote. People have perhaps realised that we obviously are better together and may be hopeful of future EU Reform which seems likely.

    I could go on?
    The biggest factor by far when it came to determining how people voted was education. 68% of people with university degrees voted to Remain, 70% of those with no more than O levels voted to Leave. That hasn't changed, Rich, so neither would the vote.

    And note Burney's point about how Leave voters are very likely to become entrenched given the way they would feel about their vote having been ignored. How many Leave voters do you think voted Leave assuming we would get a great deal as part of Brexit, or because they didn't actually think we would do it? Those numbers are pretty small, I expect, and more than likely to be offset by a number of Remain voters who have been put off by the attitude of the EU.

    The vote would be more or less the same, and the country would be even more divided. It's time for no deal, I've said that for some time. Remain or no deal are the only options that are justifiable in my view, and we voted against the former so it's time to get on with the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    The biggest factor by far when it came to determining how people voted was education. 68% of people with university degrees voted to Remain, 70% of those with no more than O levels voted to Leave. That hasn't changed, Rich, so neither would the vote.

    And note Burney's point about how Leave voters are very likely to become entrenched given the way they would feel about their vote having been ignored. How many Leave voters do you think voted Leave assuming we would get a great deal as part of Brexit, or because they didn't actually think we would do it? Those numbers are pretty small, I expect, and more than likely to be offset by a number of Remain voters who have been put off by the attitude of the EU.

    The vote would be more or less the same, and the country would be even more divided. It's time for no deal, I've said that for some time. Remain or no deal are the only options that are justifiable in my view, and we voted against the former so it's time to get on with the latter.

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