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    Quote Originally Posted by barrybueno View Post
    And its International Women's Day I could have sworn the whiny bitches had one not so long ago They are fast becoming my most hated 'minority' and that's some tough competition they're up against I can tell you!
    I keep getting press releases from engineering organisations w@nking on about it and saying how much they're doing to encourage women into the profession. Thing is, I've been seeing them say this for nearly 25 years and the numbers basically haven't shifted despite all the campaigning. It's almost like it might not be about sexism.

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    Perhaps not explicit sexism. But it might be about the fact that many companies continue to refuse to offer flexible working, which holds women back from rentering the workplace after having kids.

    You’d obviously say that’s a lifestyle choice, but it is one that men make too but without it impacting their career chances.

    I’m obviously playing devil’s advocate here.




    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I keep getting press releases from engineering organisations w@nking on about it and saying how much they're doing to encourage women into the profession. Thing is, I've been seeing them say this for nearly 25 years and the numbers basically haven't shifted despite all the campaigning. It's almost like it might not be about sexism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Perhaps not explicit sexism. But it might be about the fact that many companies continue to refuse to offer flexible working hours, which holds women back from rentering the workplace after having kids.

    You’d obviously say that’s a lifestyle choice, but it is one that men make too but without it impacting their career chances.

    I’m obviously playing devil’s advocate here.
    If that were the case, you'd expect to see women entering the profession when young in similar or equal numbers to men, though, wouldn't you? Followed by a massive drop-off when they start having kids.

    They don't. Not by a massively long chalk. And companies are falling over themselves to encourage women into engineering because it's really good PR for them. Nothing really changes, however. There are very good female engineers in senior positions - I know quite a few of them - and none of them feel they've ever faced serious discrimination either on a structural or cultural basis.

    The fact is that men are more likely to want to be engineers and are more likely to be successful engineers than women.

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    That makes sense. Children are a McGuffin, mere human shields.


    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    If that were the case, you'd expect to see women entering the profession when young in similar or equal numbers to men, though, wouldn't you? Followed by a massive drop-off when they start having kids.

    They don't. Not by a massively long chalk. And companies are falling over themselves to encourage women into engineering because it's really good PR for them. Nothing really changes, however. There are very good female engineers in senior positions - I know quite a few of them - and none of them feel they've ever faced serious discrimination either on a structural or cultural basis.

    The fact is that men are more likely to want to be engineers and are more likely to be successful engineers than women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    have much higher amounts of testosterone, higher levels of muscle mass, longer limbs, etc. and that therefore they would always retain a huge physical advantage over women in athletic performance pretty much regardless of what they did to their bodies.

    So two highly-educated experts were in a studio on the BBC's flagship radio news programme having to state the blindingly obvious for no other reason that a demonstrable lie has been allowed to run rampant in order to spare the feelings of the mentally deranged. As little as 15 years ago, such a scenario would only have been possible in a comedy sketch.

    And - not for the first time - it struck me that as a society, we are royally fùcked.
    So, the only remaining question is. Who are these fruit loops and why does anyone with a grain of common sense allow these people a stage.
    I sometimes hope for a Milligan style persona to come forth in fits of laughter to decry us all for the sheep style cluster f^ck we’ve become. Either way, it’s some achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7sisters View Post
    So, the only remaining question is. Who are these fruit loops and why does anyone with a grain of common sense allow these people a stage.
    I sometimes hope for a Milligan style persona to come forth in fits of laughter to decry us all for the sheep style cluster f^ck we’ve become. Either way, it’s some achievement.
    It won't happen. The comedy fraternity is completely emasculated, with even those with divergent views knowing that expressing them forcefully will see their bookings dry up and effectively blackballed by their peers.

    The fix is in, I'm afraid.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It won't happen. The comedy fraternity is completely emasculated, with even those with divergent views knowing that expressing them forcefully will see their bookings dry up and effectively blackballed by their peers.

    The fix is in, I'm afraid.
    Only the feminists can save us now imo.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Only the feminists can save us now imo.
    Although I'm sometimes having to bite my tongue not to point out that a lot of this mess is of their own making.

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    So at work a group of about three wimmin' heard me telling my work wife lady that we, males, were appoximately 50% stronger than females.

    One of the wimmin', a burly and very athletic germanic type (quite a jolly and pleasant character btw) scoffed and said she bet she was as strong as me. I offered her an arm wrestle there and then and she accepted.

    Before we commenced I explained to everyone who'd started gatheringing around to see the old man humiliated, that not only would I win easily but when I decided to put her arm over she would have practically zero physical resistance to offer.

    I toyed for a few seconds before emphatically finishing her off and she was absolutely mortified at how much stronger than her I was, as were the other women.

    I quickly established that none of them had ever entered into any kind of test of strength with a man and they had basically fallen for being continually told they were as strong as us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman View Post
    So at work a group of about three wimmin' heard me telling my work wife lady that we, males, were appoximately 50% stronger than females.

    One of the wimmin', a burly and very athletic germanic type (quite a jolly and pleasant character btw) scoffed and said she bet she was as strong as me. I offered her an arm wrestle there and then and she accepted.

    Before we commenced I explained to everyone who'd started gatheringing around to see the old man humiliated, that not only would I win easily but when I decided to put her arm over she would have practically zero physical resistance to offer.

    I toyed for a few seconds before emphatically finishing her off and she was absolutely mortified at how much stronger than her I was, as were the other women.

    I quickly established that none of them had ever entered into any kind of test of strength with a man and they had basically fallen for being continually told they were as strong as us.
    I really thought/hoped this story was going to turn pornographic, h.

    Mind you, this was amply demonstrated the other day on a tweet I saw where some chap (who was just your average gym bunny) posted a clip of him smashing the women's deadlift record in his gym whilst satirically claiming he identified as a woman while doing so. To anyone who objected he simply said 'Don't be a bigot'.

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