I’ve watched us when we were **** in the 70s

[WES]

'Taking us backwards' while...y'know...winning trophies and playing attractive football.

There are a couple of absurd views routinely trotted out by the anti-Unai whining bitches. First is that the football was attractive under Wenger and is not under Unai. Anyone who watched the endless games of anonymous possession under Wenger the last few seasons and then watched us rip apart Spurs this year would realise how stupid this view is. The second is that Unai has somehow betrayed the traditions of our club by changing the way we play and bringing in new players. Because Wenger certainly never did that, let alone being the first to field a no English players starting 11.

As for going backwards - we used to win the league. Then we challenged for it only occasionally. Last year we finished 37 points behind the league winners and were 7 points closer to relegation than we were to the top of the table.

That sounds like a pretty good definition of going backwards to me.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

There are a couple of absurd views routinely trotted out by the anti-Unai whining bitches. First is that the football was attractive under Wenger and is not under Unai. Anyone who watched the endless games of anonymous possession under Wenger the last few seasons and then watched us rip apart Spurs this year would realise how stupid this view is. The second is that Unai has somehow betrayed the traditions of our club by changing the way we play and bringing in new players. Because Wenger certainly never did that, let alone being the first to field a no English players starting 11.

As for going backwards - we used to win the league. Then we challenged for it only occasionally. Last year we finished 37 points behind the league winners and were 7 points closer to relegation than we were to the top of the table.

That sounds like a pretty good definition of going backwards to me.

The team I grew up with were full of Paddies. And they're a lot more foreign than the French are. I mean, I can get a train to Paris in 2hrs. Trying getting to Dublin or Belfast.

And I like foreigners better than northerners, so all in all, jobs a good'un.

[PSRB]

the 80s and the 90s. This is a whole different level of ****. This is soulless, heartless, infertile ****. This is sub-Mourinho ****. Only ****s like Wes and Robson are happy to see us fall this far.

Spot on. Would not pay to watch this shower of ****e

[Tony C]

Two things

The one rumour which I think is quite believable is that Arsene’s plan was to ride off into the sunset after the Cup Final win vs Chelsea.

But Ivan had his own plans and ‘persuaded’ him to sign a 2 year extension.

He then brought in Raul and Sven, sacked Arsene, got Unai and then ran off to Meelan he’s just as culpable for all of this imo

My guess is Arsene new the FA Cup was the furthest he could take the team without investment but took a bullet for the club he lives so much...albeit a £10m bullet with a £17m payoff at the end.

Then there’s Allegri and Luis Enrique who turned down the job because they were getting Van Perdue style lack of investment assurances.

Poor Unai got it because he was willing to work with the current group to make them better.

Said in the summer that I felt as admirable as that was he was likely to find people like Mustafi and Xhaka complete dog sh it.

[Bergkamp Was Best]

Are we all still moaning about last night?
We'll thrash those Belarusians within an inch of their lives next week and all will be forgotten

[WES]

Are we all still moaning about last night?
We'll thrash those Belarusians within an inch of their lives next week and all will be forgotten

Yup

Until the next poor result and then all this revisionism will return. Because, as we know, everything was just soooooo wonderful under Wenger last year.

[Ash]

Yup

Until the next poor result and then all this revisionism will return. Because, as we know, everything was just soooooo wonderful under Wenger last year.

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

[Burney]

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

Even going through against Battyboy Boris in Europe's premier sh*t club competition is unlikely to elevate the mood much, I'd have thought.

[7sisters]

It is possible for things to have been bad both last year and this year.

I can see us winning 2-1 next week.

I find it difficult to definitively slate any new manager, who has no realistic alternative but to walk around in his predecessors hole filled shoes. He's been beset by bad luck. It's not unreasonable to hope a new manager can get more out of some of his players but in the case of Mustafi, Xhaka, Elneney and several others past their sell by date, you cannot polish a turd.
For balance, I'd question his choice to not use Ozil or Ramsey. This seems madness in the current situation and could make the difference between finishing inside or outside the top four. We have them as resources, they're being paid large amounts of money to simply train.

[Burney]

I find it difficult to definitively slate any new manager, who has no realistic alternative but to walk around in his predecessors hole filled shoes. He's been beset by bad luck. It's not unreasonable to hope a new manager can get more out of some of his players but in the case of Mustafi, Xhaka, Elneney and several others past their sell by date, you cannot polish a turd.
For balance, I'd question his choice to not use Ozil or Ramsey. This seems madness in the current situation and could make the difference between finishing inside or outside the top four. We have them as resources, they're being paid large amounts of money to simply train.

Nothing can be 'hole-filled', 7s. A hole is, by definition, empty.