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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenal Alcoholic Review View Post
    No mention of the Legion Freies Indien?
    If you mean Chandra Bose's INA, they were so fücking insignificant that GB HQ didn't even bother setting up a unit to deal with them at mil or intel level.

    They were nothing, it's only the BJP fasicts in power now - you know, like the ones who shot Gandhi for having succeeded without their violence - that make them seem more than what they were.

    Read the Flahman author - GMF's - autobiog of the war in Burma, Quartered Safe Out Here. He says when he captured 3 INA and took them back, on the way he passed another brigade patrol, the Baluchis. He says the look they gave the INA traitors made it clear they were lucky it was the whiteys not the Baluchis who found them.

    2.5m volunteered.

    A handful of PoWs defected for better rations.

    About as miliarily significant as the 10 GB PoWs who tried to start an SS unit.

    Now, wanna talk about them saving the empire at Neuve Chapelle on their first action in France in WW1?

    Or the Sikhs and Gurkhas saving British India during the Mutiny?

    I did say don't get me started on this
    Last edited by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult; 02-09-2019 at 06:53 PM. Reason: ****ed up a paste

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Imagine if they had a war. Who would surrender first?
    UK Remainers, probably. Always seem to be ready to roll over at the first sign hardship.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Imagine if they had a war. Who would surrender first?
    It could be the shortest war in history (a record we currently hold for when we smashed up Zanzibar, of course).

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    It could be the shortest war in history (a record we currently hold for when we smashed up Zanzibar, of course).
    Of course it would. The Frogs would turn Rome into radioactive dust before the first Wop had even got to Ventimiglia.

    And they have a perm seat on the UNSC so no-one can tell them off.

    Proper country.* That's why I'm staying here for a bit.

    *India, London and Cornwall (for my glw's sake) also count as proper countries. Though the sooner India gets back the recalcitrant muzzies o'er the E and W frontiers, the better. They need to be re-civilised.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Slightly harsh on the ghosts of Verdun imo.
    Yeah, but that’s where they shot their bolt, y’see? Falkenhayn succeeded in his intention to ‘bleed France white’. What he didn’t grasp was that in doing so, he’d do the same to Germany.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yeah, but that’s where they shot their bolt, y’see? Falkenhayn succeeded in his intention to ‘bleed France white’. What he didn’t grasp was that in doing so, he’d do the same to Germany.
    That's rubbish, B.

    That's why Falk resigned before the battle was even over. Once the Somme pressure made sure that Verdun would be lost with the Fr eventually recapturing Ft Duoaumont.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    One might suggest that it was the experience of Verdun which prompted the French military to choose early surrender over the mincing machine that is holding one's ground in a steadfast, British fashion.
    Well, it was more the utter catastrophe of the Nivelle offensives a year later, to be fair. Their collective bottle went and they haven’t won a war in a century as a result.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    It just seemed a strange (predicatble?) episode to mention, given the proud, unmatched history of the British military. From Agincourt to Tumbledown, we have consistently triumphed when we had no right to, which was my original point. Countering that with Dunkirk or Singapore or Hill 235 looks suspiciously like an attempt to do this reputation down, which, as I said, would be the leftist knee-jerk to which I objected.
    I wouldn’t put Hill 235 in the same company as Dunkirk or Singapore. It may have been a tactical defeat (albeit a heroic one given that there were absolute hordes of bloodthirsty chinks), but the resistance slowed the Chinese down sufficiently to prevent a larger outflanking of the US forces and an advance on Seoul.

  9. #9
    [QUOTE=Burney;4230475]I wouldn’t put Hill 235 in the same company as Dunkirk or Singapore. It may have been a tactical defeat (albeit a heroic one given that there were absolute hordes of bloodthirsty chinks), but the resistance slowed the Chinese down sufficiently to prevent a larger outflanking of the US forces and an advance on Seoul.[/QUOTE

    What.

    Ever.

  10. #10
    [QUOTE=Sir C;4230478]
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I wouldn’t put Hill 235 in the same company as Dunkirk or Singapore. It may have been a tactical defeat (albeit a heroic one given that there were absolute hordes of bloodthirsty chinks), but the resistance slowed the Chinese down sufficiently to prevent a larger outflanking of the US forces and an advance on Seoul.[/QUOTE

    What.

    Ever.
    No need to be rude. Hmph!

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