So - what will the vote result be tonight?

[PSRB]

I can't help but think the same about the end of party politics.

Still, a general election?

Why not? Shirley, Corbyn is still not electable given his somewhat píss poor history of anti-semtism and, well, everything else?

Quite an achievement that amongst this utter cluster****, Labour are still 6 points behind the Tories in the latest opinion polls

[Pokster]

Quite an achievement that amongst this utter cluster****, Labour are still 6 points behind the Tories in the latest opinion polls

Not a shock, no party has a policy that they all agree onm, so every party will have a fudge of a policy that makes the general public think they are an utter waste of space, and none of them worth electing.

[IUFG]

... and none of them worth electing.

absolutely correct, imo.

best of a bad bunch lottery .

[7sisters]

Thing is, the only way that can happen is by destroying the Tory party - and very possibly the Labour Party.
All in all, a GE would be my favoured outcome. Imagine an election contested by two parties who can’t summon up a coherent or meaningful manifesto on the main question we’re voting on?
The death of party politics!
Effectively electing individuals rather than parties!
Actual democracy!
Wouldn’t that be marvellous?

That would depend upon the individuals, shirley ?

[Burney]

But how would we know who to vote for?! We would actually have to go and listen to things they had to say...

Yes! An engaged, self-selecting electorate - What a radical democratic notion, eh? No more voting for colours because that’s what grandad did. Marvellous!

[Rich]

Yes! An engaged, self-selecting electorate - What a radical democratic notion, eh? No more voting for colours because that’s what grandad did. Marvellous!

Would it not make it difficult to agree on anything, though? Anything from general decision making to electing a Cabinet.

[Burney]

That would depend upon the individuals, shirley ?

Exactly. Fourth-rate individuals would no longer be protected by wrapping themselves in party colours. Surely you must see the benefits?

[Burney]

Would it not make it difficult to agree on anything, though? Anything from general decision making to electing a Cabinet.

Since when did democracy become about agreeing on stuff?

[bbrian]

Fair play to you, GG - but Macron epitomises the EU elite, so how can you be supporting both sides?

He's very hard to nail down ...Dago and Septic are two of his fav terms , yet he gives out about the racist northerners ...he's a conflicted man our GG

[Ash]

He's very hard to nail down ...Dago and Septic are two of his fav terms , yet he gives out about the racist northerners ...he's a conflicted man our GG

Yes, he definitely loves hurling around the racial pejoratives and displaying outright bigotry to the northern working class. I think he does it because he can get away with it on here.