I hope all these Tory MPs coming out and backing May turn into

[WES]

She wasn't 'handed' anything. She asked for and got what she wanted. She has handled these negotiations with breathtaking incompetence and has damn near broken the Tory party in the process. I hope she dies painfully.
And I don't see any realistic mechanism whereby Brexit doesn't happen in whatever form.

What should she have done differently and what do you think the outcome would have been?

Or are you just another gob****e who can only criticize without any realistic alternatives. Like Boris. And Corbyn. That's some nice company you're keeping there.

[Sir C]

What should she have done differently and what do you think the outcome would have been?

Or are you just another gob****e who can only criticize without any realistic alternatives. Like Boris. And Corbyn. That's some nice company you're keeping there.

Well, for a start, very visibly making preparations for 'no deal' might at least have convinced our drunken Belgian friends that she was actually interested in negotitating, rather than rolling over.

[Tony C]

She is 1/8 to win and 5/1 to lose in the Vote if No Confidence market.

[Burney]

What should she have done differently and what do you think the outcome would have been?

Or are you just another gob****e who can only criticize without any realistic alternatives. Like Boris. And Corbyn. That's some nice company you're keeping there.

She ought to have begun by preparing properly for no deal from the very start. By ruling it out, she gave the EU no incentive whatsoever to negotiate rather than simply dictating terms.
She ought never to have set out any red lines - least of all over Ireland. This simply told the enemy what her vulnerabilities were and they’ve used them ruthlessly to nail us to the ground.
Most importantly, however, she ought to have picked a side - naturally the side that won. The attempt to negotiate a deal that satisfies all over a binary issue was utterly doomed from the start and has simply given traitorous remainer scum encouragement to undermine our negotiating position.

She is, in short, a cùnt.

[WES]

She ought to have begun by preparing properly for no deal from the very start. By ruling it out, she gave the EU no incentive whatsoever to negotiate rather than simply dictating terms.
She ought never to have set out any red lines - least of all over Ireland. This simply told the enemy what her vulnerabilities were and they’ve used them ruthlessly to nail us to the ground.
Most importantly, however, she ought to have picked a side - naturally the side that won. The attempt to negotiate a deal that satisfies all over a binary issue was utterly doomed from the start and has simply given traitorous remainer scum encouragement to undermine our negotiating position.

She is, in short, a cùnt.

It was hardly May that ruled out no deal - it was most of Parliament. Not to mention the governor of the B of E and an endless array of business leaders. There was never any chance that the EU wouldn't see through the no deal threat, had she gone in and said 'we're prepared for no deal' the would have said 'go ahead then'. And regardless of her red lines the EU was never going to let Ireland be hammered - as they have said clearly, without a backstop there is no deal.

Nothing you have said makes any clear argument for us getting a deal any different than we have now had we negotiated differently. I have yet to hear anyone come up with one, not Rees-Mogg, not Boris, no one. And when they get pushed on how impossible our negotiating position is they inevitably admit that the only realistic alternative is no deal.

She was in an impossible position and we'll end up where we were always going to end up; Remain or no deal. There was nothing anyone could have done to prevent that. BTW, I consider the Norway option to be Remain, because it really is.

[Rich]

It was hardly May that ruled out no deal - it was most of Parliament. Not to mention the governor of the B of E and an endless array of business leaders. There was never any chance that the EU wouldn't see through the no deal threat, had she gone in and said 'we're prepared for no deal' the would have said 'go ahead then'. And regardless of her red lines the EU was never going to let Ireland be hammered - as they have said clearly, without a backstop there is no deal.

Nothing you have said makes any clear argument for us getting a deal any different than we have now had we negotiated differently. I have yet to hear anyone come up with one, not Rees-Mogg, not Boris, no one. And when they get pushed on how impossible our negotiating position is they inevitably admit that the only realistic alternative is no deal.

She was in an impossible position and we'll end up where we were always going to end up; Remain or no deal. There was nothing anyone could have done to prevent that. BTW, I consider the Norway option to be Remain, because it really is.

Well May's compromise means that A) I will not have to live in Netherlands/Germany/Ireland to stay with my other half and B) I can import wine from France and Italy without paying import duty.

These are, of course, the important things.

[SWv2]

Well May's compromise means that A) I will not have to live in Netherlands/Germany/Ireland to stay with my other half and B) I can import wine from France and Italy without paying import duty.

These are, of course, the important things.

Why won't you pay duty from France / Italy?

[Rich]

Why won't you pay duty from France / Italy?

Because May's deal keeps the GB and NI in the Customs Union.

[Burney]

Yes, but consider the demographic of those who voted leave and would be outraged by a reversal of Brexit; a large number of them are middle-aged and many of them middle-class. I can imagine some protest marches and Farage spitting feathers on TV, but talk of civil war is hyperbolic. The TV and print media, led by Our BBC, will simply sweep it all under the carpet and after a brief period of mild aggravation, we'll all move on.

Democracy will have been betrayed, but whaddya gonna do?

Those demographics are very similar to the demographics of those who’ve been setting Paris on fire for the last four weekends.

[Sir C]

Those demographics are very similar to the demographics of those who’ve been setting Paris on fire for the last four weekends.

JRM, Nigel and Carswell at the barricades? Colonel Hardly-Worthit (ret'd) preparing Molotov cocktails?

Can't see it, man.