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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Have you been following the Spectator's to and fro with Downing Street? It does truly seem this deal is as bad as anyone could possibly have imagined.

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/1...10s-rebuttals/
    Unfortunately, yes. It makes a profoundly depressing read. Particularly as we have signed up to things that we didn't need to that are simply an embarrassment.

    In my more paranoid moments over the last two years I've imagined the idea was to deliberately create a deal so bad that it made the idea of remaining palatable. I've dismissed these thoughts as absurd - no British PM would dream of doing such a thing.

    I'm no longer dismissing the thought. This is a Remain stitch-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Unfortunately, yes. It makes a profoundly depressing read. Particularly as we have signed up to things that we didn't need to that are simply an embarrassment.

    In my more paranoid moments over the last two years I've imagined the idea was to deliberately create a deal so bad that it made the idea of remaining palatable. I've dismissed these thoughts as absurd - no British PM would dream of doing such a thing.

    I'm no longer dismissing the thought. This is a Remain stitch-up.
    I'm a leetle bit on the fence about it. However, I suspect May asked for what she wanted and was promptly told to do one by the EU. Unfortunately, leaving with no deal will 100% hurt most of the people that voted for Brexit (though I accept they didn't know what they were voting for at the time).

    I think we'll need a final referendum to decide whether we want to accept the deal we do have or remain. I highly doubt we will leave with no deal since it means that everybody loses.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    I'm a leetle bit on the fence about it. However, I suspect May asked for what she wanted and was promptly told to do one by the EU. Unfortunately, leaving with no deal will 100% hurt most of the people that voted for Brexit (though I accept they didn't know what they were voting for at the time).

    I think we'll need a final referendum to decide whether we want to accept the deal we do have or remain. I highly doubt we will leave with no deal since it means that everybody loses.
    Your solution is, of course, what this abject surrender was designed to achieve. Like I say, a Remain stitch-up.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    I'm a leetle bit on the fence about it. However, I suspect May asked for what she wanted and was promptly told to do one by the EU. Unfortunately, leaving with no deal will 100% hurt most of the people that voted for Brexit (though I accept they didn't know what they were voting for at the time).

    I think we'll need a final referendum to decide whether we want to accept the deal we do have or remain. I highly doubt we will leave with no deal since it means that everybody loses.
    Too many people state this as though it was fact; I have yet to see a sensible, objective analysis that makes it clear that it is fact.

    And most of the people saying this, also told us that voting for Brexit would cause the economy to crash.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Too many people state this as though it was fact; I have yet to see a sensible, objective analysis that makes it clear that it is fact.

    And most of the people saying this, also told us that voting for Brexit would cause the economy to crash.
    This fella is a highly outspoken Brexiteer who thinks No Deal would be a total disaster (he favours the Norway model)

    http://peterjnorth.blogspot.com/

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