I see Brian Harvey has gone proper radio...

[Monty92]

No they didn't - they voted for a less certain short term future in the hope that the long term future would be better and more philosophically aligned with their views of how the country should be run.

Other than the old people who voted to keep out the *inevitable* onslaught of swarthy looking people into their bucolic villages, of course.

Yes, they voted in the knowledge that there may be a detrimental short-to-medium term economic impact, or to put it another way, "to be poorer"

[Pokster]

Yes, they voted in the knowledge that there may be a detrimental short-to-medium term economic impact, or to put it another way, "to be poorer"

Excuse me, how do you know what they voted for ? Not everyone will be poorer by Brexit, so stop generalisations as it does nothing for your reasoning

[Monty92]

Excuse me, how do you know what they voted for ? Not everyone will be poorer by Brexit, so stop generalisations as it does nothing for your reasoning

It shouldn't be necessary to have to qualify that when you use the pronoun "they" you don't necessarily actually mean "everyone"

[Pokster]

It shouldn't be necessary to have to qualify that when you use the pronoun "they" you don't necessarily actually mean "everyone"

So it was a crap generalisation that has no merit whatsoever... wd m

[Peter]

It shouldn't be necessary to have to qualify that when you use the pronoun "they" you don't necessarily actually mean "everyone"

So your point is that some people did vote to be poorer.

Or maybe some people voted for other people to be poorer?

[Monty92]

So your point is that some people did vote to be poorer.

Or maybe some people voted for other people to be poorer?

My point is that Soubry and her fellow remainers (including the entire global political and economic establishment) spent the entire campaign telling people that leaving would make them poorer.

Even if they didn't understand the precise reasons why, we can surely assume they understood the basic concept of leaving making them poorer.

So it seems odd for her to then come out and say "people didn't vote to be poorer"

[Peter]

My point is that Soubry and her fellow remainers (including the entire global political and economic establishment) spent the entire campaign telling people that leaving would make them poorer.

Even if they didn't understand the precise reasons why, we can surely assume they understood the basic concept of leaving making them poorer.

So it seems odd for her to then come out and say "people didn't vote to be poorer"

Fair enough. We dont know why they voted the way they did but we do know the information they were given.

We cant say they voted to be poorer anymore than she can claim that none of them did.

Of course, we dont actually want to be poorer.

[IUFG]

Fair enough. We dont know why they voted the way they did but we do know the information they were given.

We cant say they voted to be poorer anymore than she can claim that none of them did.

Of course, we dont actually want to be poorer.

ironically, if we remain/ed we'll get to vote on approximately the square root of fúck all on all matters that the EU want to impose.

[Monty92]

Fair enough. We dont know why they voted the way they did but we do know the information they were given.

We cant say they voted to be poorer anymore than she can claim that none of them did.

Of course, we dont actually want to be poorer.

What about people who favour higher taxes? They want to be poorer, in a very real sense

[Burney]

Yes, they voted in the knowledge that there may be a detrimental short-to-medium term economic impact, or to put it another way, "to be poorer"

Careful, m. You're in danger of ascribing intellectual agency to Leave voters. There'll be someone along to tell you an anecdote about their sister-in-law that proves they're all idiots any minute.