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Thread: Much of the world's media are clearly hating every minute of this summit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    The fact that NK has just committed to complete and immediate denuclearisation - i.e. a huge American foreign policy success and general good thing - is gritting their collective sh1t in no uncertain terms.

    It's actually rather glorious to watch.
    But what about human rights???

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    But what about human rights???
    What about them?

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    What about them?
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!

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    Lets not forget about the pledged investment funding, as yet undefined. #nosuchthimgasafreekimchi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!
    Might stop him firing rockets at family members tied to stakes though

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Exactly. Ultimately he has concluded a deal with a dictator with silly hair that commits him to getting rid of weapons he almost certainly doesn't have.

    Bad deal!!!
    No. He has taken a rogue nuclear state off the map by forcing a dictator to cease fvcking about with nukes he demonstrably did have and giving him a face-saving way of backing down that doesn't involve war and massively reduces regional tensions.

    Face facts: it's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No. He has taken a rogue nuclear state off the map by forcing a dictator to cease fvcking about with nukes he demonstrably did have and giving him a face-saving way of backing down that doesn't involve war and massively reduces regional tensions.

    Face facts: it's a strategic and diplomatic triumph of the sort nobody's seen since the fall of the Iron Curtain.
    the success (or otherwise) of diplomatic deals are not weighed the minute the meeting ends. Lets see what happens shall we.....

    He still hasn't built that ****ing wall.....

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    the success (or otherwise) of diplomatic deals are not weighed the minute the meeting ends. Lets see what happens shall we.....

    He still hasn't built that ****ing wall.....
    Oh, I agree. However, if you compare his foreign policy achievements in 18 months with Obama's in 8 years, he's undeniably miles ahead.

    I agree about the wall, fwiw. Quite a lot of his supporters are getting irritated about that. I don't blame them. Who wants a country full of Mexicans, after all? Look at the fvcking state of Mexico for how that turns out.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Oh, I agree. However, if you compare his foreign policy achievements in 18 months with Obama's in 8 years, he's undeniably miles ahead.

    I agree about the wall, fwiw. Quite a lot of his supporters are getting irritated about that. I don't blame them. Who wants a country full of Mexicans, after all? Look at the fvcking state of Mexico for how that turns out.
    THe genuinely worrying thing is that he is infuriating the global community with his tariffs aimed at protecting and creating american jobs in key industries. He is going to great lengths to do exactly what he promised he would do during the election.

    He really hasn't got the hang of this politics lark, has he

    As I have said before, if he brings hundreds of thousands of jobs to those states that have sat rotting for decades then even I will hail him as a great president.

    THis things he has signed with Kim...it says nothing! Bad deal!!

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Oh, I agree. However, if you compare his foreign policy achievements in 18 months with Obama's in 8 years, he's undeniably miles ahead.

    I agree about the wall, fwiw. Quite a lot of his supporters are getting irritated about that. I don't blame them. Who wants a country full of Mexicans, after all? Look at the fvcking state of Mexico for how that turns out.
    Whereas if Kim had got an H-bomb and long range delivery system with which to hit the US during Obama's day, and then been given a meeting, treated as an equal, and promised better relations, all without any concrete promise of denuking, the right would have been calling Obama a traitor.

    As Ind, Pak and Isr have shown. If you wanna be taken seriously, get a nuke.

    Why should any tinpot dictator respect the NPT now?

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