As with most high-level appointments, though, by the time you've had the chat, you've pretty much already decided this is who you want. If all goes well, the chat itself is simply a means of discussing terms. If it goes badly, it's simply an opportunity for the candidate to fvck things up by saying all the wrong things and thus rule themselves out. Sometimes others apply and - out of a sense of duty or fair play - one interviews them for form's sake, but you're unlikely ever to employ them. Thus was it, I suspect, with young Mikel.