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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Good God! Really? I’d assumed only an American would be capable of such a solecism.

    What on earth has become of the C of E? ‘Sexual onion’, indeed.
    You don’t often see God and the Church of England mentioned in the same breath

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    The Times went on about how he had taken the wedding by storm, he was the highlight of the service etc etc etc

    I then watched his sermon only to see endless smirks and grins from the audience and in some cases outright embarrassment. Liz and Phil looked aghast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    The Times went on about how he had taken the wedding by storm, he was the highlight of the service etc etc etc

    I then watched his sermon only to see endless smirks and grins from the audience and in some cases outright embarrassment. Liz and Phil looked aghast.
    Soft bigotry of low expectations, innit. If a white priest had come out with that drivel, he’d have been castigated. Essentially, what yer progressives are saying they is ‘Yeah, but they love all that, dont they, the darkies. Bless’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Soft bigotry of low expectations, innit. If a white priest had come out with that drivel, he’d have been castigated. Essentially, what yer progressives are saying they is ‘Yeah, but they love all that, dont they, the darkies. Bless’.
    Yes, there's that angle as well as the 'had they come out and said it was sh1t and cringe worthy they would have been accused of racism' angle.

    Not to mention the desire to confirm - yet again - that they couldn't possibly be racist by telling everyone how wonderful it was.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Yes, there's that angle as well as the 'had they come out and said it was sh1t and cringe worthy they would have been accused of racism' angle.

    Not to mention the desire to confirm - yet again - that they couldn't possibly be racist by telling everyone how wonderful it was.
    One of those appalling pastor types debated Stephen Fry and Jordan Peterson on Friday on the relative merits of political correctness.

    Whether it's worth two hours of your time you will have to decide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYimeaoea0

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    One of those appalling pastor types debated Stephen Fry and Jordan Peterson on Friday on the relative merits of political correctness.

    Whether it's worth two hours of your time you will have to decide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYimeaoea0
    Have you spent the two hours on it? If so what did you think? #tldr

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Have you spent the two hours on it? If so what did you think? #tldr
    Yeah.

    I think it was about as good a debate as that kind of format will ever allow. That is, wholly inadequate and ultimately frustrating

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    One of those appalling pastor types debated Stephen Fry and Jordan Peterson on Friday on the relative merits of political correctness.

    Whether it's worth two hours of your time you will have to decide.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYimeaoea0
    I've watched bits of it. The two people against them (including the pastor) seemed pathetically outgunned intellectually.

    What's interesting regarding Fry's involvement is that the comedy/media establishment (at least those parts of it bright enough to notice and rich enough to not have to worry about it costing them work) do seem finally to be waking up to the monster they've created. Whether this means others will dare stick their heads above the parapet remains to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    I've watched bits of it. The two people against them (including the pastor) seemed pathetically outgunned intellectually.

    What's interesting regarding Fry's involvement is that the comedy/media establishment (at least those parts of it bright enough to notice and rich enough to not have to worry about it costing them work) do seem finally to be waking up to the monster they've created. Whether this means others will dare stick their heads above the parapet remains to be seen.
    Fry has always done that, to be fair. He's been railing against 'offensive culture' for years.

    He does talk about the point you're making during this debate, though - in particular how he would be ostracised if he expressed certain opinions among his media luvvie counterparts.

    Of course, the pastor's response was pretty much "Don't talk to me about oppression - you're a rich white man."

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