Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
man up? who doesn't like wrestling with a bit of torque-steer?

The reality is, of course, four wheel drive is the way to go.

Rear wheel drive? useless in the wet, snow and ice and there is not a lot of drifting to be done on the urban streets.
I understand why a lot like rear wheel drive tbf, but you have turn all the electronics off to properly enjoy it.
And I prefer to drive on the road and not in the ditch.
1. Torque steer is as enjoyable as a anal rape.
2. Four wheel drive is excellent under slippery conditions but worse than worthless for enjoayble fast driving.
3. By 'useless' I believe you mean, 'huge fun'?
4. If you can't hang the tail out and steer on the throttle around the average UK roundabout, you're not trying.
5. If you're in the ditch you need more training.

I say these things not to hurt, i, but to educate.

NB: My current fleet includes a Caterham Seven, rear wheel drive car lacking any form of electronic trickery, an Aston Vantage in which I switch the traction control and DSC off if wishing to hustle along in a fun manner, and a Jeep Grand Cherokee for when it snows. The glw has a front wheel drive car, which is just as it should be.