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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    promised by the lefty intelligentsia, Trump's robust attitude to North Korea has brought them to the negotiating table.

    What a bunch of silly-billies the snowflakes are.

    Yes. It's almost as though appeasement encourages aggressors to be more aggressive, isn't it? If only there had been any salutary examples of this phenomenon in recent history from which people could have learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yes. It's almost as though appeasement encourages aggressors to be more aggressive, isn't it? If only there had been any salutary examples of this phenomenon in recent history from which people could have learned.
    Its not really the same though is it.... and marching into other people's countries on suspicion that they may possess weapons hasn't worked out terribly well in more recent examples.

    That leaves just dumping a load of nukes on them, which might come across as a little extreme.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Its not really the same though is it.... and marching into other people's countries on suspicion that they may possess weapons hasn't worked out terribly well in more recent examples.

    That leaves just dumping a load of nukes on them, which might come across as a little extreme.
    Perhaps the idea is that the Chinese and/or the Russians ought to do the marching, not us. Either way, the Norks are about this close to having a proper capability, so there's really nothing left for us to talk to them about.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Perhaps the idea is that the Chinese and/or the Russians ought to do the marching, not us. Either way, the Norks are about this close to having a proper capability, so there's really nothing left for us to talk to them about.
    Well either you are in the arms business or you are not.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Well either you are in the arms business or you are not.
    Precisely. Nobody minds a homicidal maniac dictator, what we do strongly object to though is a cheapskate one.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yes. It's almost as though appeasement encourages aggressors to be more aggressive, isn't it? If only there had been any salutary examples of this phenomenon in recent history from which people could have learned.
    If you're applying that statement to the 1930s, it really shows you know the best part of jack **** about the causes of WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    If you're applying that statement to the 1930s, it really shows you know the best part of jack **** about the causes of WW2.
    The causes are certainly endlessly debatable. At least, many Germans have made B's same point to me, over the years; essentially rebuking us for not intervening sooner to nip the thing in the bud.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    The causes are certainly endlessly debatable. At least, many Germans have made B's same point to me, over the years; essentially rebuking us for not intervening sooner to nip the thing in the bud.
    Not at the academic level. The Stufenplanners have won the argument. Not Versailles, not appeasement, all down to Adolf's loony stufen (step-by-step) plan to risk national destruction of a war of global domination that he described in his two books (2nd unpublished) in the '20s.

    ww2 = Stufenplan.
    ww1 = Fischer thesis.

    No need to thank me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    Not at the academic level. The Stufenplanners have won the argument. Not Versailles, not appeasement, all down to Adolf's loony stufen (step-by-step) plan to risk national destruction of a war of global domination that he described in his two books (2nd unpublished) in the '20s.

    ww2 = Stufenplan.
    ww1 = Fischer thesis.

    No need to thank me.
    I do find the way historians act as though theorising is a zero-sum game very funny.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult View Post
    Not at the academic level. The Stufenplanners have won the argument. Not Versailles, not appeasement, all down to Adolf's loony stufen (step-by-step) plan to risk national destruction of a war of global domination that he described in his two books (2nd unpublished) in the '20s.

    ww2 = Stufenplan.
    ww1 = Fischer thesis.

    No need to thank me.
    You do express a most touching faith in academe, g.

    By the time you've got your knees brown you will come to appreciate that daft lads who've spent their whole lives at school have learnt the square root of fúck all.

    University of Life. School of Hard Knocks. That's where you want to take your learning.

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