Chelsea seem to be ****ing about re: Giroud.

[Luis Anaconda]

He is French you bald tool.

He has a French passport, he is not French (he has a Spanish mother as well)

[SWv2]

He has a French passport, he is not French (he has a Spanish mother as well)

He was born in France.

Now I only found this out at the weekend, he has also represented them at youth levels. Who knew,

[Luis Anaconda]

He was born in France.

Now I only found this out at the weekend, he has also represented them at youth levels. Who knew,

Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse though. The playing for Milan as a youth was also new to me

[Ash]

Being born in a stable doesn't make you a horse though. The playing for Milan as a youth was also new to me

Nationality doesn't necessarily work like taxonomy, surely?

I distinctly recall learning that being born in this here country makes one an Onglay. I'm pretty sure we have two or three gentlemen here from Irish racing stock who were born in England yet self-define as Englishers.

[Luis Anaconda]

Nationality doesn't necessarily work like taxonomy, surely?

I distinctly recall learning that being born in this here country makes one an Onglay. I'm pretty sure we have two or three gentlemen here from Irish racing stock who were born in England yet self-define as Englishers.

Who could you mean? It is an odd saying, true, but I guess the point is nationality is to a certain point a matter of choice. One can choose to be English or Irish or Dutch should one have a certain lineage, one cannot choose to be a horse if one desired

[SWv2]

Who could you mean? It is an odd saying, true, but I guess the point is nationality is to a certain point a matter of choice. One can choose to be English or Irish or Dutch should one have a certain lineage, one cannot choose to be a horse if one desired

I have always taken a much simpler view on this.

Your nationality is where you are born, simple enough. You can choose to follow your family heritage etc and look upon yourself as otherwise but if you are born in England for example you are English.

This is not meant to antagonise or show disrespect to anybody.

Citizenship then different innit.

[IUFG]

I have always taken a much simpler view on this.

Your nationality is where you are born, simple enough. You can choose to follow your family heritage etc and look upon yourself as otherwise but if you are born in England for example you are English.

This is not meant to antagonise or show disrespect to anybody.

Citizenship then different innit.

Now, I was born in England.

I did won of those DNA profiley, ancestory things

Turns out I'm mainly of Lithuanian, German and Polish stock.

From the ancestory side of things I can't find any Johnny Foreigners in my bloodline apart from one German woman who came across to England in the 1920's. The European gene game is strong, imo.

May I take this opportunity to announcement my retirement from international football : DieMannschaft:

[Luis Anaconda]

I have always taken a much simpler view on this.

Your nationality is where you are born, simple enough. You can choose to follow your family heritage etc and look upon yourself as otherwise but if you are born in England for example you are English.

This is not meant to antagonise or show disrespect to anybody.

Citizenship then different innit.

What if you are born on a plane or a ship in international waters?

[Burney]

I have always taken a much simpler view on this.

Your nationality is where you are born, simple enough. You can choose to follow your family heritage etc and look upon yourself as otherwise but if you are born in England for example you are English.

This is not meant to antagonise or show disrespect to anybody.

Citizenship then different innit.

I'd argue it's where you spend your formative years. Cliff Richard was born in India, but the cünt's not Indian, is he?

[Burney]

Who could you mean? It is an odd saying, true, but I guess the point is nationality is to a certain point a matter of choice. One can choose to be English or Irish or Dutch should one have a certain lineage, one cannot choose to be a horse if one desired

Sorry, but this results in absurdities like the Jorges of this world deciding they're Irish despite every iota of external evidence suggesting otherwise. Also, Americans claiming to be Irish. :shudder: Geography has to be something to do with it, I'm afraid.