I believe we are offering Wilshere a pay cut.

[Peter]

Yes, but this is a rot we need to stop. Wilshere is injury prone and I can think of very few injury prone players who stop being injury prone and go on to have uninterrupted careers. I'm happy to see us being a bit more ruthless.

That ruthlessness needs to start by getting rid of a dreadful manager, not getting rid of our best midfielder.

Let someone competent start making the ruthless decisions.

[Burney]

That ruthlessness needs to start by getting rid of a dreadful manager, not getting rid of our best midfielder.

Let someone competent start making the ruthless decisions.

He isn't our best midfielder. That's just sentimental böllocks. Get rid and start again.

[IUFG]

He isn't our best midfielder.

Correct.

Quite clearly that honour is bestowed upon Iwobi. Jeezus H ****ing Christ.

[Peter]

He isn't our best midfielder. That's just sentimental böllocks. Get rid and start again.

Aside from Cazorla, who is dead, he is- by a mile actually, although only because the others are stunningly mediocre or, in the case of Ramsey, incapable of actually playing in midfield.

[Burney]

Aside from Cazorla, who is dead, he is- by a mile actually, although only because the others are stunningly mediocre or, in the case of Ramsey, incapable of actually playing in midfield.

His record for us says otherwise.

[Ash]

Aside from Cazorla, who is dead, he is- by a mile actually, although only because the others are stunningly mediocre or, in the case of Ramsey, incapable of actually playing in midfield.

Ramsey is better in a three-man midfield, I reckon. At the moment Jack is looking like we need to get him signed up again, at least to avoid having to bring in about twelve new players in the next couple of years.

[redgunamo]

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[SWv2]

Aside from Cazorla, who is dead, he is- by a mile actually, although only because the others are stunningly mediocre or, in the case of Ramsey, incapable of actually playing in midfield.

Come now Pedro, a modicum of restraint here please coupled with some sort of knowledge of the game and/or position.

Ramsey is either playing with a) no tactical restriction or instruction or b) playing with no tactical restriction or instruction within a midfield combination which is devoid of order or balance.

To say he simply cannot play is a nonsense.

[World's End Stella]

Come now Pedro, a modicum of restraint here please coupled with some sort of knowledge of the game and/or position.

Ramsey is either playing with a) no tactical restriction or instruction or b) playing with no tactical restriction or instruction within a midfield combination which is devoid of order or balance.

To say he simply cannot play is a nonsense.

He didn't say he couldn't play - he said he couldn't play in midfield. And given that he is 27 years old and we have yet to see him ever prove that he could play there, it seems a fair view imo.

[Pokster]

He didn't say he couldn't play - he said he couldn't play in midfield. And given that he is 27 years old and we have yet to see him ever prove that he could play there, it seems a fair view imo.

Surely depends on what your view of a midfield player is It seems he carries out instructions form his manager to a tee, scores plenty of goals and covers the ground better than others in that position. Seems to me that he can play midfield but perhaps the other players around him are the ones that need changing?