We used to cream our pants when Freddie and Bobby P scored 15 a season from out wide.

[World's End Stella]

I think we would get over it if it was ever accepted that it happened. It continues to eat at people because it was roundly ignored.

THe problem with your argument is that Cole's challenge was a yellow card. A fairly soft one, but a deliberate kick with no attempt to play the ball. You are highlighting about the only decision Riley got right in the whole game!

I think it is incredibly generous to think that United's approach to that game was accidental, or opportunist. Particularly having seen them do it time and time again against us at Old Trafford (never at Highbury) and had seen it work pretty much all the time. Vieira's sending off, the soft penalty, the game in 2002 when Van Nistelrooy came on for twenty minutes and, if I remember correctly, committed two blatant red card offences (one a punch in Frieddie's chest right in front of the ref) and at least three other yellow card offences and not get so much as a booking.

I never said it was accidental, I said I don't think that they expected Riley to cheat, I think they discovered that he was cheating once the game started and acted accordingly.

They clearly targeted Reyes as a group and I would be surprised if there wasn't some direction from the manager there. Nice comparison to the FA Cup game there where they did the same thing, came out kicking us all over the pitch. Jeff Winter immediately pulled out the cards, the game settled down and we played football and won 2-0.

Still think we should move on, mind.

[Burney]

I never said it was accidental, I said I don't think that they expected Riley, I think they discovered that he was cheating once the game started and acted accordingly.

They clearly targeted Reyes as a group and I would be surprised if there wasn't some direction from the manager there. Nice comparison to the FA Cup game there where they did the same thing, came out kicking us all over the pitch. Jeff Winter immediately pulled out the cards, the game settled down and we played football and won 2-0.

Still think we should move on, mind.

When did football fans ever 'move on'? It's just not what they do.

[SWv2]

When did football fans ever 'move on'? It's just not what they do.

We as a nation moved on from Henry's handball.

Well some of us did.

[Burney]

We as a nation moved on from Henry's handball.

Well some of us did.

Let me guess: the Arsenal-supporting ones did? The others not so much?

[SWv2]

Let me guess: the Arsenal-supporting ones did? The others not so much?

I still often hear him referred to in very unpleasant ways - "cheating French ****" as such.

[Burney]

I still often hear him referred to in very unpleasant ways - "cheating French ****" as such.

To be fair, at least two of those epithets are demonstrably true (and I wouldn't rule out the third).

[Peter]

I never said it was accidental, I said I don't think that they expected Riley to cheat, I think they discovered that he was cheating once the game started and acted accordingly.

They clearly targeted Reyes as a group and I would be surprised if there wasn't some direction from the manager there. Nice comparison to the FA Cup game there where they did the same thing, came out kicking us all over the pitch. Jeff Winter immediately pulled out the cards, the game settled down and we played football and won 2-0.

Still think we should move on, mind.

Accidental, or opportunist. You seem to be saying it was unplanned and they spotted Riley was cheating and seized on it. I dont agree with that at all. Given his history at Old Trafford they would be remarkably stupid if they didnt already know how he would react.

It is funny, you will find plenty of journalists and articles rubbishing the notion that the nevilles targeted Reyes. This despite Phil Neville himself saying that he and his brother did target Reyes, that it was all part of the plan, and that they knew it would ruffle Arsenal.

I will move on when we get justice.

[IUFG]

I will move on when we get justice.

That's the spirit, p.

Riley being pushed off a very tall building will just about sate me.

[Peter]

That's the spirit, p.

Riley being pushed off a very tall building will just about sate me.

And someone giving Van Nistelrooy a ****ing good kicking......

[Burney]

And someone giving Van Nistelrooy a ****ing good kicking......

By the way, I see Momentum now has control of the NEC and the new disciplinary head's first move was to drop a range of investigations into anti-semitism. Presumably this is on the grounds that anti-semitism can't exist if you don't look for it.

You aren't seriously going to vote for this absolute shítshow are you, p?