Like I said the other day, we need change for change’s sake.

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Oh, I see. I'd forgotten that. In fairness, it would have seemed unbelievably harsh to get rid of Wenger in 2012/13 when he'd just got us through a hugely difficult financial situation while qualifying for the CL every year, etc. However, those are the sort of harsh decisions that truly ambitious clubs take when they believe someone has taken them as far as they can.

A natural point for him to leave would have been 2014 after winning the FA Cup. I think all round it would have seemed right. As Ash points out, if any manager deserved the opportunity with the financial changes, it was Wenger. For him to choose to stay was not beyond the realms to lunacy. This, as it turns out, has not succeeded.

To be offered a contract by the board in the summer was sheer lunacy. For Wenger to sign was not. After all, he had failed, his reputation has taken a dent and it looks like he had no other Football options and he got a pay rise. To accept that was somewhat of a no brainer.

[Herbert Augustus Chapman]

Remarkable prescience on your part, I called it. You sensed that something was just wrong, even though nobody was really interested in exploring what it might be, back then.

Actually, do I mean "perceptiveness "?

Wenger - six 'ish years ago b?

greg mitchell was first out of the traps a good 10 years ago in calling the inevitable decline based on "Wenger's refusal to strengthen". I thought he was wrong because I still believed Wenger was capable of finding gold in a silver mine.

[Burney]

Wenger - six 'ish years ago b?

greg mitchell was first out of the traps a good 10 years ago in calling the inevitable decline based on "Wenger's refusal to strengthen". I thought he was wrong because I still believed Wenger was capable of finding gold in a silver mine.

Something like that. I wouldn't claim any great perceptiveness in it. We could all feel the thing had drifted.

Calling for Wenger's head 10 years ago was crazy, though. We were financially constrained and yet in 2008 we could easily have won the league. I still believe that Eduardo doesn't get crippled and we win that season.

[redgunamo]

Wenger - six 'ish years ago b?

greg mitchell was first out of the traps a good 10 years ago in calling the inevitable decline based on "Wenger's refusal to strengthen". I thought he was wrong because I still believed Wenger was capable of finding gold in a silver mine.

Yeah, old Greg did always seem to know his stuff, imo.

[taxman10]

I wonder with the ox’s emergence at Liverpool as something resembling a decent player will make other younger players think twice about staying at arsenal. When was the last young player Wenger actually improved? Hector seems to be going backwards and maitland-miles is getting his confidence dented every week because he’s played out of position

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Perhaps his (he has lost the 'right' to a capital H) bosses are accountable for doing sod all about his clearly exhausted management

[SWv2]

Perhaps his (he has lost the 'right' to a capital H) bosses are accountable for doing sod all about his clearly exhausted management

Quite, they did after all offer him his last two contracts.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Well said Ash
Comical wenger see no evil