I see Sadiq Khan has had to agree to an increase of stop and search

[Burney]

The problem with stop and search is that it busts perfectly innocent people for the harmless misdemeanour of being in possession of controlled substances.

Possibly, but let's be honest, decent, upstanding chaps like you and me aren't going to be stopped and searched, are we? That's going to happen to feral street rats for whom possession is the least of their offences.

Of course, that whole nonsense could be overcome by simply legalising or decriminalising drugs. We really are a long way behind much o the western world on this now. It's embarrassing when large chunks of the United States have a more enlightened approach to drug use than we do, ffs!

[World's End Stella]

Possibly, but let's be honest, decent, upstanding chaps like you and me aren't going to be stopped and searched, are we? That's going to happen to feral street rats for whom possession is the least of their offences.

Of course, that whole nonsense could be overcome by simply legalising or decriminalising drugs. We really are a long way behind much o the western world on this now. It's embarrassing when large chunks of the United States have a more enlightened approach to drug use than we do, ffs!

Devil's advocate here - I have always been firmly in favour of legalizing all drugs and I guess I remain so to this day.

But I admit I never saw the flooding of opioids into Canada and America coming on the back of the legalization of marijuana. It's a massive issue and not just amongst the lowlifes. I had a cousin lose a son to a heroin overdoes in an upscale suburb of Toronto. A friend from university had to do an intervention for his son who had discovered fentanyl and almost died, he's in recovery now.

The legalization of all drugs is more complicated than many thought including me.

[Sir C]

Devil's advocate here - I have always been firmly in favour of legalizing all drugs and I guess I remain so to this day.

But I admit I never saw the flooding of opioids into Canada and America coming on the back of the legalization of marijuana. It's a massive issue and not just amongst the lowlifes. I had a cousin lose a son to a heroin overdoes in an upscale suburb of Toronto. A friend from university had to do an intervention for his son who had discovered fentanyl and almost died, he's in recovery now.

The legalization of all drugs is more complicated than many thought including me.

What's opiods got to do with marijuana like?

[World's End Stella]

What's opiods got to do with marijuana like?

Mexicans flooded the North American market with cheap heroin when pot became legal. Heroin addiction and related incidents of crime went through the roof.

[Sir C]

Mexicans flooded the North American market with cheap heroin when pot became legal. Heroin addiction and related incidents of crime went through the roof.

That's more a reflection of how thick north Americans are, isn't it? "I've got a good idea, let's all get on the skag, after all, what could go wrong?"

Idiots and moosefúckers, all of them.

[World's End Stella]

That's more a reflection of how thick north Americans are, isn't it? "I've got a good idea, let's all get on the skag, after all, what could go wrong?"

Idiots and moosefúckers, all of them.

Yeah, well you'd certainly never find any heroin addicts in Holland, would you?

[Sir C]

Yeah, well you'd certainly never find any heroin addicts in Holland, would you?

You were whining about the prevalence of opioid addiction in north America. Now you tell me the rpoblem is just as bad in the Netherlands. You're obsessed, man.

[Burney]

Devil's advocate here - I have always been firmly in favour of legalizing all drugs and I guess I remain so to this day.

But I admit I never saw the flooding of opioids into Canada and America coming on the back of the legalization of marijuana. It's a massive issue and not just amongst the lowlifes. I had a cousin lose a son to a heroin overdoes in an upscale suburb of Toronto. A friend from university had to do an intervention for his son who had discovered fentanyl and almost died, he's in recovery now.

The legalization of all drugs is more complicated than many thought including me.

I don't see the link with grass. The rise in opioid addiction in North America has far more to do with incredibly lax prescribing practices (and undue pressure from the drug companies) that created huge numbers of 'legal' addicts who - when the prescribing practices were tightened up - only had heroin as a possible backup.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I don't see the link with grass. The rise in opioid addiction in North America has far more to do with incredibly lax prescribing practices (and undue pressure from the drug companies) that created huge numbers of 'legal' addicts who - when the prescribing practices were tightened up - only had heroin as a possible backup.

Bingo.

And the fact that until recently, their gangsters only moved coke. Which meant, at least in the 90s, you could buy crack on any street corner in a major city smack was unheard of.

[Burney]

Bingo.

And the fact that until recently, their gangsters only moved coke. Which meant, at least in the 90s, you could buy crack on any street corner in a major city smack was unheard of.

Well I think Seattle did pretty well for smack in the 90s, tbh.