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[Peter]

Your example is absurd and ignores the salient fact that he was talking about effect that immigration of non-white, non-European people from alien cultures into this country and that remains the major issue. So I repeat that he was right about the trend, but wrong on the specifics. What he couldn't have foreseen was the specific problems that muslim immigration would pose.

I don't vilify all immigrants and neither do I decry them all as savages. My specific problem is with Islam and its increasing encroachment into this country's way of life. I despise Islam as a belief system and the more I find out about it, the more despicable it becomes. It fosters and encourages social and sexual attitudes that are wholly at odds with western intellectual and social progress and if challenged on an intellectual, legal or social level, its adherents invariably respond with threats and actual violence. What is there to like about that?

So am I attacking the cornerstones of their beliefs, culture and religion? Absolutely. I find their culture, beliefs and religion utterly abhorrent - as should anyone who seriously cares about protecting secular western values. What is wrong with attacking a system of man-made beliefs that another person has? If a fascist walked into the room espousing fascism would you hesitate to challenge him out of sensitivity? Of course not. However, adherents of Islam have the race card to play and by playing it, they keep people quiet about their more disgusting attitudes and beliefs (of which there are many). It's been a very effective tactic and has caused many nice, white liberals to turn a blind eye for fear of being called racist.

I consider Islam to be a savage and barbaric creed and it therefore follows that those who espouse its teachings and call themselves adherents of its beliefs (and thus follow the social strictures it demands) are themselves savage and barbaric and therefore unfit for western society.

Problem is b.....there are plenty of us on here who seem to hold social and sexual attitudes that are wholly at odds with western intellectual and social progress, myself included.

What happens when that 'progress' leaves us old gigs behind, merrily thinking that having a cock makes you a chap?

What happens when everyone else in the west happily accepts Islam? Is it not YOU that is out of step with 'our' culture and society?

[Burney]

Problem is b.....there are plenty of us on here who seem to hold social and sexual attitudes that are wholly at odds with western intellectual and social progress, myself included.

What happens when that 'progress' leaves us old gigs behind, merrily thinking that having a cock makes you a chap?

What happens when everyone else in the west happily accepts Islam? Is it not YOU that is out of step with 'our' culture and society?

Then it won’t be ‘OUR’ culture, anymore, will it? It will be an alien culture that has been allowed to win because we were too feeble to stand up for sense, rationality and decency.

[redgunamo]

Then it won’t be ‘OUR’ culture, anymore, will it? It will be an alien culture that has been allowed to win because we were too feeble to stand up for sense, rationality and decency.

State schools, Higher Education for All, the NHS, "Hollywood", social services, Political Correctness, Feminism; not to mention Pokemon Go! and Twitter and DINKYs; all alien cultures that have "been allowed to win because we were too feeble to stand up for sense, rationality and decency.

Are we merely picking on Islam because we are not "responsible" for it, or anyway, we can claim to be not responsible for it? If so, protest is pointless as it completely misses the principle problem, namely "us"