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Thread: Whoa! 'Theresa May to call Arlene Foster later today to pitch border deal'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    Result imo. The Brexit bonus. Not only get rid of Brussels but give N.Ireland back too.

    Your fine Guards! can deal with a few hundred thousand orange loonies.
    Point of order: we cannot give Northern Ireland 'back', since the Irish have never had it to be given it 'back'. Ireland has never been a meaningfully united political entity other than under British rule.

    That said, I see a lot of useful aspects to essentially treating Northern Ireland as a bonded warehouse for exporting to the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Point of order: we cannot give Northern Ireland 'back', since the Irish have never had it to be given it 'back'. Ireland has never been a meaningfully united political entity other than under British rule.

    That said, I see a lot of useful aspects to essentially treating Northern Ireland as a bonded warehouse for exporting to the EU.
    Does Arlene not pull the plug then and you go to the polls again, and then maybe even let Jeremy in?

    There is a fair amount more clusterfúcking which yet could happen here.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Does Arlene not pull the plug then and you go to the polls again, and then maybe even let Jeremy in?

    There is a fair amount more clusterfúcking which yet could happen here.
    Oh, yeah. We've all come to assume clusterfückery as the new norm over here. I still don't think Corbo will get in whatever happens.

    I'm just trying to get my head around May trying to broker a deal without proper consultation with the DUP. It just seems impossibly stupid.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Oh, yeah. We've all come to assume clusterfückery as the new norm over here. I still don't think Corbo will get in whatever happens.

    I'm just trying to get my head around May trying to broker a deal without proper consultation with the DUP. It just seems impossibly stupid.
    The impossibly stupid might just be an act of genius in the current climate. Or, more likely, an act of impossible stupidity.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    The impossibly stupid might just be an act of genius in the current climate. Or, more likely, an act of impossible stupidity.
    That or she's showing willing in the certain knowledge that the DUP will kibosh it. That way, the political heat falls on them rather than her.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    That or she's showing willing in the certain knowledge that the DUP will kibosh it. That way, the political heat falls on them rather than her.
    WTO here we come

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    WTO here we come
    As an idea, it works. She can legitimately say that the majority party in NI as represented at Westminster has rejected the deal and that she has to respect their wishes. I do wonder if she's actually clever enough to have thought that one through, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Point of order: we cannot give Northern Ireland 'back', since the Irish have never had it to be given it 'back'. Ireland has never been a meaningfully united political entity other than under British rule.

    That said, I see a lot of useful aspects to essentially treating Northern Ireland as a bonded warehouse for exporting to the EU.
    And Ireland has never been a meaningfully partitioned entity other than under british rule. So yes, we can 'give it back' in the same sense that we 'gave back' the 26 almost a century ago.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    And Ireland has never been a meaningfully partitioned entity other than under british rule. So yes, we can 'give it back' in the same sense that we 'gave back' the 26 almost a century ago.
    You can't give something 'back' that someone has never had, p. ou can give it to them (and welcome to it, God knows), but that's it. We didn't give the 26 counties 'back', we gave them to the newly-founded entity of the Irish Republic. Y

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You can't give something 'back' that someone has never had, p. ou can give it to them (and welcome to it, God knows), but that's it. We didn't give the 26 counties 'back', we gave them to the newly-founded entity of the Irish Republic. Y
    We gave them back to the Irish people, if we couldn't give them back to the Irish State.

    That's the trouble with your ilk. You only recognise the ruling class of a nation. The ordinary people just don't exist.

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