Excellent. Seems the media has decided it's going to pretend to be morally outraged

[Burney]

This seems to have been taken by one of his mates. It should never have seen the light of day. Someone close to him has stitched him up.

I'm guessing his mate took it and then shared it with others, so it needn't necessarily be anyone close to him.

[Pokster]

I'm guessing his mate took it and then shared it with others, so it needn't necessarily be anyone close to him.

Well he has shown that he is as thick as pig ****, he has previous and doesn't seem to learn... so *******s to him, he won't go to Oz and he has probably helped **** up his future career

[Burney]

Well he has shown that he is as thick as pig ****, he has previous and doesn't seem to learn... so *******s to him, he won't go to Oz and he has probably helped **** up his future career

He has previous for what? Being a young man with a taste for drink and misbehaviour? I don't remember being a saint in my 20s, either, to be honest.

I think there's more than a hint of sanctimony about here.

[Pokster]

He has previous for what? Being a young man with a taste for drink and misbehaviour? I don't remember being a saint in my 20s, either, to be honest.

I think there's more than a hint of sanctimony about here.

As a high profile sportsman he has to behave in a way that normal blokes don't, that will have been told to him over and over by management and some of the "experts" now employed by national teams. So basically it is his own fault and he deserves all he gets

[Burney]

As a high profile sportsman he has to behave in a way that normal blokes don't, that will have been told to him over and over by management and some of the "experts" now employed by national teams. So basically it is his own fault and he deserves all he gets

But he only 'has' to behave like that in order to avoid sanctimonious, hypocritical finger-wagging of exactly the type you're currently indulging in.

[Pokster]

But he only 'has' to behave like that in order to avoid sanctimonious, hypocritical finger-wagging of exactly the type you're currently indulging in.

As SW says, if he was a foootballer he would be given even more grief than he has so far.

Do you think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour after this?

So you think knocking some bloke out while he was backing away is "normal" behaviour???

If it wasn't an England player and we were about to play the Ashes you wouldn't be getting your knickers in a twist

[Burney]

As SW says, if he was a foootballer he would be given even more grief than he has so far.

Do you think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour after this?

So you think knocking some bloke out while he was backing away is "normal" behaviour???

If it wasn't an England player and we were about to play the Ashes you wouldn't be getting your knickers in a twist

I doubt he would, actually. If he were a footballer, it would be expected and a bit meh. It's precisely because he's a cricketer that this is unusual.

I think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour because he hasn't actually been convicted of anything yet and because - even if he is - it's not actually that big a deal. I wouldn't say knocking people out is 'normal', but if every bloke who as a young man has got pïssed and punched someone were to be convicted for it and have their professional life blighted for it, we'd have an awful lot of criminal records knocking about. Getting into fights isn't particularly clever or dignified, but it happens, has always happened and will always happen. Throwing our hands up in horror about this one instance of something you can see in any town centre on a Friday night is just silly.

[Luis Anaconda]

As SW says, if he was a foootballer he would be given even more grief than he has so far.
This is just specious *******s to be honest. He's plastered all over the papers - effectively been tried in the kangaroo court of public opinion and given a right metaphorical kicking. Some people have stood up for him - almost exactly what would have happened if he was a footballer
Do you think he should be allowed to go on the Ashes tour after this?
Yep
So you think knocking some bloke out while he was backing away is "normal" behaviour???
In Bristol, yes
If it wasn't an England player and we were about to play the Ashes you wouldn't be getting your knickers in a twist

No. We need him

[PSRB]

He has previous for what? Being a young man with a taste for drink and misbehaviour? I don't remember being a saint in my 20s, either, to be honest.

I think there's more than a hint of sanctimony about here.

or my 30's