This is a breathtaking example of lefty irresponsibility, fed by slobs who refuse

[Burney]

There are many ways to answer those questions but the simplest is probably that even very intelligent people aren't perfect and can make mistakes and not just once, but on an ongoing basis.

See also, the Vietnam War.

But that fact doesn't mean that the ignorant masses who borrowed money they shouldn't have don't share in the responsibility for the crash and subsequent events. That narrative won't sell as many newspapers as 'evil bankers cause crash and misery and then pocket huge bonus etc etc' though.

Hmmm. Not sure this washes, though. As things stand, large sections of the finance industry are trying to convince the poor, ignorant demos to trust them on the basis that they know best and want the best for everyone on the subject of Brexit. You can't take that kind of patronising/paternalistic line on one hand while on the other saying 'Yeah, we systematically failed, knowingly lied to you, swindled you and screwed you over, but tough shït'.

I'm not saying you're wrong on the issue of personal responsibility, I'm just saying you probably oughtn't to be surprised that people are disinclined to listen to or trust you anymore.

[World's End Stella]

Hmmm. Not sure this washes, though. As things stand, large sections of the finance industry are trying to convince the poor, ignorant demos to trust them on the basis that they know best and want the best for everyone on the subject of Brexit. You can't take that kind of patronising/paternalistic line on one hand while on the other saying 'Yeah, we systematically failed, knowingly lied to you, swindled you and screwed you over, but tough shït'.

I'm not saying you're wrong on the issue of personal responsibility, I'm just saying you probably oughtn't to be surprised that people are disinclined to listen to or trust you anymore.

But the profits of the large banks suggest that people and institutions are doing precisely that.

And it probably isn't so much a matter of trust but more likely an indicator of how utterly reliant we are on banks not only for our financial security but for our economy and therefore our lifestyle generally. Amazing how quickly people will forgive or forget someone or something upon which they are completely reliant.

[Ash]

But the profits of the large banks suggest that people and institutions are doing precisely that.

And it probably isn't so much a matter of trust but more likely an indicator of how utterly reliant we are on banks not only for our financial security but for our economy and therefore our lifestyle generally. Amazing how quickly people will forgive or forget someone or something upon which they are completely reliant.

We are also utterly reliant on electricity, transport and communication networks and farmers.

[World's End Stella]

We are also utterly reliant on electricity, transport and communication networks and farmers.

True. What's your point?