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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    True enough. But the value isn't so much in always achieving the values to which one aspires, but in consistently trying to, surely?
    There speaks a good Catholic boy!

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    There speaks a good Catholic boy!
    Why the world is in such a mess.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Why the world is in such a mess.
    We'll have a bit less of the anti-catholic hate speech from you, young r. We get enough of that from a.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    There speaks a good Catholic boy!
    Just a human being acknowledging that we are all capable of failure

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Just a human being acknowledging that we are all capable of failure
    I don't think that helps, to be honest. It just gives people the idea that doing the wrong thing is acceptable.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    I don't think that helps, to be honest. It just gives people the idea that doing the wrong thing is acceptable.
    But if the opposite it true, you're telling people that, if there is a chance of failure, one shouldn't try.

    We didn't build an empire without trying and occasionally failing.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    But if the opposite it true, you're telling people that, if there is a chance of failure, one shouldn't try.

    We didn't build an empire without trying and occasionally failing.
    Do or do not. There is no 'try'.

    A wise man said that.

    Or it might've been Yoda out of Star Wars now I think about it.
    Last edited by Burney; 08-30-2017 at 02:03 PM.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    But if the opposite it true, you're telling people that, if there is a chance of failure, one shouldn't try.

    We didn't build an empire without trying and occasionally failing.
    One certainly shouldn't try to fail; one should be encouraged to succeed. But there, you've excused failure even while attempting success. And there's no need for it.

    Either we get it right, or we get out, needs to be the message.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    But if the opposite it true, you're telling people that, if there is a chance of failure, one shouldn't try.

    We didn't build an empire without trying and occasionally failing.
    Did you ultimately not make a bollócks of the whole empire thing?

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SWv2 View Post
    Did you ultimately not make a bollócks of the whole empire thing?
    The language you're currently speaking would suggest not.

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