Burney, your analogy between our treatment of animals and prostitution seems flawed

[Burney]

The world is eating more meat because intensive farming and speedy exports are making it cheaper than ever before. This creates two additional concerns that are relatively new- carbon footprint, and the intense cruelty of intensive farming.

We have people suggesting there are 37 genders. Is it really inconceivable that people will start to turn their back on the farming industry, particularly as the alternatives become more freely accessible and whining ****s start to believe they are allergic to dairy?

The number of vegan companies in the UK has almost quadrupled in the last decade……

The UK is not the world. It, like the rest of the west, is a declining, decadent place where faddish crankery is virtually the norm. This means that it will soon die and soon be replaced by some more vital, hungry culture that I can assure you will have no time for nonsense on stilts like animal rights.

[eastgermanautos]

It wasn't an analogy, it was a benchmark of how, as a species, we are disinclined to allow questions of ethics to dominate our need to satiate our natural desires for pleasure. The point is that, after 10,000 years of civilisation, if we have only come that far on the commoditisation of human beings, how much further away do you think a worldwide moratorium on the commoditisation of animals is?

This is, in fact, completely wrong, and I expect you know it. The Ancient Greeks were all about the ethics of food choices. Epicureans much? And of course old Pythagoras, with his religion of farting.

[Burney]

This is, in fact, completely wrong, and I expect you know it. The Ancient Greeks were all about the ethics of food choices. Epicureans much? And of course old Pythagoras, with his religion of farting.

You're confusing philosophy and reality, I fear.

[eastgermanautos]

You're confusing philosophy and reality, I fear.

Ethics. Aristotle trotted out a work called The Nichomachean Ethics. Not read it, don't plan to.

[redgunamo]

to me.

For our attitudes towards the former to move closer to the latter doesn’t necessarily require us to “willingly forego the pleasures” of eating animals. It can merely require a shift in attitudes to those who do and who are otherwise involved in the practice.

So, in the case of prostitution, it may still be partaken of by millions around the world, but you pay a huge social (and often professional) price in this becoming public knowledge. And if you are involved in the operations side of prostitution (pimp, sex trafficker) then you pay an even greater price.

Is it not conceivable that our attitude to eating dead animal flesh will go down a similar route in the future, whereby millions will still eat animals but will receive a level of opprobrium for doing so that doesn’t exist today?

And if you are involved in the operations side of eating animals - say a factory farmer or a KFC worker - you will simply become a social pariah in any social situation in which you reveal your occupation?

No, I don't think so; work, and the idea of work, is simply too important nowadays. Getting caught kerb-crawling, for instance, may be an embarrassment but there's no real long-term price to be paid. Everyone can make a mistake but the modern thinking is it doesn't mean they ought to be denied the right to work and make a living. There's endless examples of this.

[Burney]

How much emotional weight and value would you say the average casual sex encounter carries and how much damage would you say it does to other parts of your life and view of the world?

That rather depends on whether or not the wife finds out about it, m

[redgunamo]

That rather depends on whether or not the wife finds out about it, m

Or if acquiring the wife in the first place was actually a consequence of it. The damage to other parts of your life and view of the world can be very "emotional" indeed

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

Fer fuxake Monty get rid of that avatar. Mezut was clearly very underwhelmed to have his walk interrupted by a Kilburn dwelling arriviste and you look like the sort of primping nancy that's had an awful lot of cock in his mouth (who the feck grooms their chest hair into a straight line!).