Click here for Arsenal FC news and reports

Results 1 to 10 of 84

Thread: Slightly :deviant: behaviour last night, watched the women's footy

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    They thought nobody could lose to whoever the Republicans fielded- especially him. Sanders was the gamble and Hillary the safe bet.

    In truth, Sanders could have beaten him. Would have been a very interesting campaign.
    Not sure Sanders would've stood up to the scrutiny of a Presidential campaign. When you're positioning yourself as the Simon pure guy, there's just too many man traps to stumble into.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Not sure Sanders would've stood up to the scrutiny of a Presidential campaign. When you're positioning yourself as the Simon pure guy, there's just too many man traps to stumble into.
    Nobody thought Trump would. This was no ordinary campaign.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Nobody thought Trump would. This was no ordinary campaign.
    Yeah, but 'scandals' didn't touch Trump because he'd already said the media was out to get him. So every time they went for him, it vindicated and strengthened him in his supporters' eyes. Equally, being prepared to say shocking and offensive things was very much part of his appeal, so that inoculated him against the danger of gaffes. It was a very clever bit of stupidity.

    I'm not sure Bernie Sanders would've been able to survive those sorts of bumps in the road as easily.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yeah, but 'scandals' didn't touch Trump because he'd already said the media was out to get him. So every time they went for him, it vindicated and strengthened him in his supporters' eyes. Equally, being prepared to say shocking and offensive things was very much part of his appeal, so that inoculated him against the danger of gaffes. It was a very clever bit of stupidity.

    I'm not sure Bernie Sanders would've been able to survive those sorts of bumps in the road as easily.
    If you look at where Trump won the election, Sanders would have given him a far tougher ride. He also would have been a very different proposition in debate where Hillary was beyond useless.

    Also, the American public don't universally despise him. Always a good start.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    If you look at where Trump won the election, Sanders would have given him a far tougher ride. He also would have been a very different proposition in debate where Hillary was beyond useless.

    Also, the American public don't universally despise him. Always a good start.
    Yeah, there was the whole 'he's a socialist' thing, though. Americans reflexively run a mile from that. I think that would've hurt him. Americans will accept a bit of socialism here and there, but God help you if you actually call it socialism.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Yeah, there was the whole 'he's a socialist' thing, though. Americans reflexively run a mile from that. I think that would've hurt him. Americans will accept a bit of socialism here and there, but God help you if you actually call it socialism.
    Of course. I do think there are large parts of American where being a woman is still seen as worse though.

    Its about the electoral math, b

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Of course. I do think there are large parts of American where being a woman is still seen as worse though.

    Its about the electoral math, b
    I take your point, but I just think all the Trump campaign would've had to do was constantly refer to 'the socialist Bernie Sanders' and they'd have won.

    Anyway, this is all speculation. I think we can agree that the US election last year was an unprecedented shítshow in terms of the quality of candidates - and all the more entertaining for it.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Nobody thought Trump would. This was no ordinary campaign.
    No, it was an ordinary campaign, but he was no ordinary candidate.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    No, it was an ordinary campaign, but he was no ordinary candidate.
    which made it no ordinary campaign.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    which made it no ordinary campaign.
    It always looks good if you give credit where it's due though.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •