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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Actually, as I pointed out a couple of years back, the truly humane thing to have done would have been to sink a couple of them back then and let the occupants drown. That would have discouraged more from coming and saved thousands of lives longer term - as well as relieving Europe of a huge burden.

    We're too squeamish to do such things of course. Ho-hum.
    Thank goodness
    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

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    I actually started writing something where a special force is set up by the EU to sink all the ships. Sort of Blade Runner meets Terra Firma.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Thank goodness
    Well, yes. It's less upsetting, certainly. It would be better, of course, but nobody really cares about what's best. They prefer what they can feel good about.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Well, yes. It's less upsetting, certainly. It would be better, of course, but nobody really cares about what's best. They prefer what they can feel good about.
    It's more what we can't feel bad about, though, isn't it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    It's more what we can't feel bad about, though, isn't it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem
    Naturally. It is easier on the conscience not to act rather than to calculate and act decisively for the better when both have negative consequences. One is an act of killing, the other a sin of omission (or abdication of moral responsibility).

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Well, yes. It's less upsetting, certainly. It would be better, of course, but nobody really cares about what's best. They prefer what they can feel good about.
    Who is to say that it would be best... like Monty's trolley test, there is no guarantee that going hell for leather and taking extreme measures will make it better in the long run.

    That will be why that is hasn't happened yet...... you could say Iraq was the going in hard and making things better in the long run, it hasn't worked out like that yet.
    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Who is to say that it would be best... like Monty's trolley test, there is no guarantee that going hell for leather and taking extreme measures will make it better in the long run.

    That will be why that is hasn't happened yet...... you could say Iraq was the going in hard and making things better in the long run, it hasn't worked out like that yet.
    There are no guarantees of anything other than the fact that doing the same thing again and again will always bring the same result.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Who is to say that it would be best... like Monty's trolley test, there is no guarantee that going hell for leather and taking extreme measures will make it better in the long run.

    That will be why that is hasn't happened yet...... you could say Iraq was the going in hard and making things better in the long run, it hasn't worked out like that yet.
    Erm...there's no question which is the best long-term scenario with the Trolley test.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Erm...there's no question which is the best long-term scenario with the Trolley test.
    Boats of rats which should be mitigated by approved methods. Chemical, weaponical, jurisdictional.

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