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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    I'm not sure. Isn't that mostly stuff we were doing, or at least would like to have been doing, anyway?

    People didn't want war, everybody wanted peace. Well, this is what peace typically looks like
    No. It's stuff that has been enacted in direct response to acts of Islamic terror.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    No. It's stuff that has been enacted in direct response to acts of Islamic terror.
    Airport security has always been a thing, machine gun-toting police have long been a feature of both supermarkets in Benidorm and football matches in Germany and nobody forces anybody to tell their life stories to LinkedIn or Facebook, do they.

    Wars on terror or whtever-have-you is just a McGuffin, imo. In these matters, solutions very often do predate the problem.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Airport security has always been a thing, machine gun-toting police have long been a feature of both supermarkets in Benidorm and football matches in Germany and nobody forces anybody to tell their life stories to LinkedIn or Facebook, do they.

    Wars on terror or whtever-have-you is just a McGuffin, imo. In these matters, solutions very often do predate the problem.
    Erm, have you been on a civilian flight since 11th September 2001, r?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Erm, have you been on a civilian flight since 11th September 2001, r?
    Whoever is in front of me in the queue for security doesn't appear to have.
    The amount of ****ing about people do. If you are not ready to go through security they should give you 30 seconds and send you to the back of the queue.

    there was some tosser with a 2l bottle of milk in front of me before throwing it away he had a leisurely swig of it.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Whoever is in front of me in the queue for security doesn't appear to have.
    The amount of ****ing about people do. If you are not ready to go through security they should give you 30 seconds and send you to the back of the queue.

    there was some tosser with a 2l bottle of milk in front of me before throwing it away he had a leisurely swig of it.
    A small inconvenience perhaps, nothing more.

    It seems to me that, for all the talk of "values", the main problem is that we don't really have any anymore. Or at least, people want to make them up as they go along, to suit, but then wish to reserve the right to go all gooey when everyone else, naturally, wants to do the same.

    The link between the two appears lost on people.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  6. #6
    Excellent article in the Telegraph today by Allison Pearson. That woman is good:

    "Even before their bodies were cold, the great and the good were crowding on to the airwaves to murmur their slef-soothing mantras about hope being better than fear, strong, vibrant communities., keep clam and carry on, business as usual.

    How dare they. They insult the dead who deserve their country to be outraged and anguished on their behalf. Why should we be calm when our children are considered a legitimate target for mass murder?

    The Government... needs to channel justifiable public anger into drastic action."

  7. #7

    No, of course not. I have heard one or two stories though.

    Is it any different than flying with NATO or the Navy? I doubt it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Erm, have you been on a civilian flight since 11th September 2001, r?
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Is it any different than flying with NATO or the Navy? I doubt it.
    Good Lord man, I don't advise flying with the Navy; those chaps have a very bizarre attitude to aircraft - specifically, the landing thereof.

    The only thing worse than a matelot in the flight deck would be a brown job.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    Is it any different than flying with NATO or the Navy? I doubt it.
    r, this happened on a suburban street in Manchester yesterday and no-one sees it as disproportionate or incongruous.

    https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/867278332798390272

    It seems undeniable to me that we have come to accept a new definition of normal in response to Islamic terrorism.

  10. #10
    The heading of this post is normally interpreted as "we must not change THEIR way of life". Ban the burkha for starters and blame terrorism.

    Yesterday of all days Facebook was awash with some crappy footage of some Oz broad bawling out someone in a "racist attack". This is somehow given equivalence with a sectarian and racist attack which leaves 22 people dead.

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