Sweet Jesus, there is no one to vote for in this election :-(

[Burney]

Dunno, never really engaged with that issue. I remember from the referendum people saying it would make it easier for extremist parties to gain influence. Presumably if 2015 had been PR, then UKIP would have been much better placed to ensure we don't end up with a fake Brexit.

That would have been good. But then maybe it would allow ovarian cancer deserving c*nts like the women's equality party to gain influence. That would not be good.

The problem with PR is that it appeals to people's ill thought out ideas of who it might be nice to throw a vote to here and there and then we end up with the cünts in Parliament, fücking things up.
So, for instance, your mum (or similar) might vote for her first choice party based on some hard reasons and then chuck a sympathy vote at - for instance - the Greens on the grounds that she thinks it's probably nice to look after the planet and...y'know...recycling and trees and stuff.
Then, before you know it, we end up with these hemp-clad lunatics hanging around in Parliament wielding actual power with their absurd, luddite ideas. AND PEOPLE WILL END UP HAVING TO PANDER TO THEM IN ORDER TO GET ANYTHING DONE!
Before you know it, meat-free Monday is a statutory requirement and Foie Gras is illegal. And all because some voters didn't really think about it that much.
No, I'll stick to FPTP, thanks. It concentrates the voter's mind and keeps utter spastics out of power where they belong.

[Ash]

The problem with PR is that it appeals to people's ill thought out ideas of who it might be nice to throw a vote to here and there and then we end up with the cünts in Parliament, fücking things up.
So, for instance, your mum (or similar) might vote for her first choice party based on some hard reasons and then chuck a sympathy vote at - for instance - the Greens on the grounds that she thinks it's probably nice to look after the planet and...y'know...recycling and trees and stuff.
Then, before you know it, we end up with these hemp-clad lunatics hanging around in Parliament wielding actual power with their absurd, luddite ideas. AND PEOPLE WILL END UP HAVING TO PANDER TO THEM IN ORDER TO GET ANYTHING DONE!
Before you know it, meat-free Monday is a statutory requirement and Foie Gras is illegal. And all because some voters didn't really think about it that much.
No, I'll stick to FPTP, thanks. It concentrates the voter's mind and keeps utter spastics out of power where they belong.

I do appreciate the 'getting things done' argument in favour of FPTP but I do find the keenest supporters are those who FPTP benefits - basically the two biggest mainstream parties, who know that the pendulum usually swings back their way eventually. You focus on the negative, but there can be genuinely good ideas (according to taste, obv) that deserve a voice too. And perhaps a new kind of politics is overdue but the inertia of the old system with its established parties and cheerleaders of media support prevent this.

The other thing is that currently millions of voters are completely disenfranchised as their vote is totally meaningless when their preferred party is a distant third in their constituency.

[redgunamo]

I do appreciate the 'getting things done' argument in favour of FPTP but I do find the keenest supporters are those who FPTP benefits - basically the two biggest mainstream parties, who know that the pendulum usually swings back their way eventually. You focus on the negative, but there can be genuinely good ideas (according to taste, obv) that deserve a voice too. And perhaps a new kind of politics is overdue but the inertia of the old system with its established parties and cheerleaders of media support prevent this.

The other thing is that currently millions of voters are completely disenfranchised as their vote is totally meaningless when their preferred party is a distant third in their constituency.

We like it that way though, it suits our character. Millions of lefties are disenfranchised in Henley-on-Thames too, but surely that's their own fault; why would that sort want to live in such a place.

And it is a common mistake to imagine foreigners do it any better.