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Thread: The problem with Sunday is that, points wise, a draw is unhelpful to our top 4 chance

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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    You are correct that we are entirely incapable of playing for a draw. However, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of us getting something out of the game by any means. How many NLDs have you watched over the years where the gulf in class and league position was much bigger between the teams than it is now that have ended up either being attritional draws or going against form?
    Also, the occasion might get to them. Last NL derby at the existing Lane, chance to finish above us for the first time in two decades, title hopes in the balance. They have shown no sign of bottling it yet, but this is another big test in that regard for a team of players who have won f*ck all in their careers so far.

    If Chelsea can just sneak a win at Goodison it will relax by sphincter no end.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    Also, the occasion might get to them. Last NL derby at the existing Lane, chance to finish above us for the first time in two decades, title hopes in the balance. They have shown no sign of bottling it yet, but this is another big test in that regard for a team of players who have won f*ck all in their careers so far.

    If Chelsea can just sneak a win at Goodison it will relax by sphincter no end.
    Doesn't a Spurs win also confirm that they finish above us? A chance to gloat in front of us.....

    I feel a bit sick.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Doesn't a Spurs win also confirm that they finish above us? A chance to gloat in front of us.....

    I feel a bit sick.
    I'm relatively relaxed about it, actually. I'm of the view that if we can avoid the nightmare scenario of them winning the league then their bragging will feel somewhat hollow, even if we lose to them, finish outside the top 4 and lose the cup final. And I'm currently comforted psychologically by the assumption that Chelsea won't let it slip from this point. That could obviously change quickly, but for now I am staying calm.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    I'm relatively relaxed about it, actually. I'm of the view that if we can avoid the nightmare scenario of them winning the league then their bragging will feel somewhat hollow, even if we lose to them, finish outside the top 4 and lose the cup final. And I'm currently comforted psychologically by the assumption that Chelsea won't let it slip from this point. That could obviously change quickly, but for now I am staying calm.
    If you think this is bad, just think how awful it would've been if we'd had to play them in the Cup Final with them potentially going for the Double.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    If you think this is bad, just think how awful it would've been if we'd had to play them in the Cup Final with them potentially going for the Double.
    For those of us occasionally seduced by the notion that we might actually hate Chelsea more than Spurs, this season has been a sobering reality-check.

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    For those of us occasionally seduced by the notion that we might actually hate Chelsea more than Spurs, this season has been a sobering reality-check.
    You can't hate anybody more than Spurs. It is part of the oath you swear when you sign up.

    It has been a long time since we needed to put any energy into hating Spurs

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    For those of us occasionally seduced by the notion that we might actually hate Chelsea more than Spurs, this season has been a sobering reality-check.
    Exactly. Anyone arguing that has to my mind got the wrong end of the whole Arsenal-supporting stick if you ask me.

    I think most sane Arsenal would happily take losing the Cup final to Chelsea and thus giving them the double over Tottenham winning anything at all.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Exactly. Anyone arguing that has to my mind got the wrong end of the whole Arsenal-supporting stick if you ask me.

    I think most sane Arsenal would happily take losing the Cup final to Chelsea and thus giving them the double over Tottenham winning anything at all.
    Essentially the double, and for that matter FA Cup victory, means **** all now.

    I am sorry to say that given we have held it up in recent years as success. It's a nice day out and all that but league success is really where it is at - and by success I mean winning the fúcking thing.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Monty92 View Post
    I'm relatively relaxed about it, actually. I'm of the view that if we can avoid the nightmare scenario of them winning the league then their bragging will feel somewhat hollow, even if we lose to them, finish outside the top 4 and lose the cup final. And I'm currently comforted psychologically by the assumption that Chelsea won't let it slip from this point. That could obviously change quickly, but for now I am staying calm.
    I am clinging to the hope that Pochettino will get offered a better job soon and Spurs will go back to appointing crap managers. If we can just get through this year and next without them winning the league.....and if we can just scrape a draw this weekend.....

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I am clinging to the hope that Pochettino will get offered a better job soon and Spurs will go back to appointing crap managers. If we can just get through this year and next without them winning the league.....and if we can just scrape a draw this weekend.....
    I understand he's on the same sort of long-term, new stadium stability, rolling retainer-type deal that Wenger was
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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