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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Incorrect. They did want to win militarily. .. They couldn't. Ergo, they lost.
    Yes, military forces invariably do, but there's always wider issues at stake.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbette Chapman - aged 15 View Post
    Winning militarily was never their objective C - they were a terrorist organisation. I'd say they were reasonably successful at that.

    Who is this 14 Int by the way? /
    The Det. Special forces surveillance detachment. I don't know if they continued operations after Ireland.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    The Det. Special forces surveillance detachment. I don't know if they continued operations after Ireland.
    Will you stop it with these fúcking abbreviations and acronyms! - what is Det. supposed to mean?

    And who is that in your picture thingy in the very splendid hat?

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Herbette Chapman - aged 15 View Post
    Will you stop it with these fúcking abbreviations and acronyms! - what is Det. supposed to mean?

    And who is that in your picture thingy in the very splendid hat?
    14 Intelligence Company, known as The Det, undercover loonies who collected intelligence for MI5 and undermined the Ra

    It's Tim McGraw, a fine singer of both types of music, country and western.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    14 Intelligence Company, known as The Det, undercover loonies who collected intelligence for MI5 and undermined the Ra

    It's Tim McGraw, a fine singer of both types of music, country and western.
    So we draw our information now from folk music do we? Works for me C - better than any bloody fake news

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    SAS and 14 Int persuaded them they couldn't win militarily
    It's the onset of middle-age, innit. Those practical arguments chaps would've roundly dismissed only a short time before suddenly begin to ring true and make sense. I've seen it all over the world.

    There always seems to come a point when a chap wants to just cash out, grab his girl and go off and live a quiet life. Very few want to keep running and fighting forever. The ones that *do* want to carry on quickly end up dead
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    It's the onset of middle-age, innit. Those practical arguments chaps would've roundly dismissed only a short time before suddenly begin to ring true and make sense. I've seen it all over the world.

    There always seems to come a point when a chap wants to just cash out, grab his girl and go off and live a quiet life. Very few want to keep running and fighting forever. The ones that *do* want to carry on quickly end up dead
    Of course it's always necessary to make deals with the devil for peace. There's no such thing as unconditional surrender in conflicts like Northern Ireland, since the resentment such a conclusion would engender would only breed more conflict. So I don't condemn our politicians for ending the conflict by the means they did (although allowing murderers out of jail and general amnesties stick in the craw). However, I refuse to tolerate these airbrushed fond farewells of a man who has that much blood on his hands.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Of course it's always necessary to make deals with the devil for peace. There's no such thing as unconditional surrender in conflicts like Northern Ireland, since the resentment such a conclusion would engender would only breed more conflict. So I don't condemn our politicians for ending the conflict by the means they did (although allowing murderers out of jail and general amnesties stick in the craw). However, I refuse to tolerate these airbrushed fond farewells of a man who has that much blood on his hands.
    The chap who murdered Louis Mountbatten got out, didn't he? I wonder how Her Majesty felt, having to shake hands with McGuinness.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    The chap who murdered Louis Mountbatten got out, didn't he? I wonder how Her Majesty felt, having to shake hands with McGuinness.
    She's shaken hands with worse, I suppose. She knows it's the job.

    Mind you, I imagine she burnt the gloves afterwards.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    She's shaken hands with worse, I suppose. She knows it's the job.
    Right
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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