Well personally I don’t think the whole banners during matches and flying of planes with messages attached is of any help other than focusing the media on the circus.Originally Posted by Ash
Before and after games is fair enough.
I would suggest we are actually a laughing stock at the moment. Just imagine the mileage we would be getting from these events in N17.
Of course if the Wenger Out enthusiasts were a large majority, and if they really believed that they were acting in the club's best interests in having the manager removed, we would fail to sell half our season tickets this spring and then you'd see a reaction from the owner.
Of course these people will continue to pay as if they have no agency in the matter, and then moan about what they receive for their money
Well I have to say I would not expect any supporter to give up on ST entitlement due to dislike of Wenger.Of course if the Wenger Out enthusiasts were a large majority, and if they really believed that they were acting in the club's best interests in having the manager removed, we would fail to sell half our season tickets this spring and then you'd see a reaction from the owner.
Of course these people will continue to pay as if they have no agency in the matter, and then moan about what they receive for their money
Football support transcends the individual and indeed the present.
You've properly embarrassed yourself there, old chap.
Well it does. I don't particularly like any of our current players but it does not dilute support for the club. I actually dislike some of them, others I am simply indifferent to.
Yes, yes, but this idea that football fans 'deserve' something, or are in some way different to consumers of any other product, service or entertainment, is just a bit silly. If they don't want Wenger at the club and if they don't renew in sufficient numbers, he'll be gone. But turning up every week and moaning about what they're watching is a bit silly.
You know as well as I do that a chap who walks away now may never get his ST back, so why should he walk away based on Wenger when the change he so desperately wants may be just around the corner?
I know chaps who absolutely hate Wenger but have been going since late 70s or early 80s, a similar vintage to you. I won’t resort to clichés such as it being in their blood or whatever but it is an absolutely massive part of their lives and will always be.
The current decline of Wenger should not impact that.
Silly? Perhaps so, but then so much about football is silly so we can dismiss that.
Would the Arsenal be better off if they took their custom elsewhere?
Nobody says fans must always agree with everything.
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
This is based on the asumption that in football, supply-and-demand operates in the same way as every other business.Of course if the Wenger Out enthusiasts were a large majority, and if they really believed that they were acting in the club's best interests in having the manager removed, we would fail to sell half our season tickets this spring and then you'd see a reaction from the owner.
Of course these people will continue to pay as if they have no agency in the matter, and then moan about what they receive for their money
Which, of course, it completely doesn't.
And yet these fans demand the service they feel they have paid for in the form of results and trophies and whatnot, don't they? They feel they are entitled to value for money based on what they pay. The fact that they're too stupid to realise that the club can only charge what the market will bear and - as long as they keep coming back - that's whatever the club likes does not alter the fact that the market is still operating around them.
They are the anomaly and - as long as they keep behaving anomalously - they'll get what they deserve.
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