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[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Stop trying to make me read girl's books!

I just got a big book on the siege of somewhere unpronounceable in Poland in WW1. That's a proper man's book.

Speaking of recent mil-hist books, what's your take on Dresden?

Bombing the fück out of their cities meant that 30% of the manpower, 50% of the artillery and 70% of the aircraft were withdrawn from the Eastern Front for home defence.

So killing Kraut civilians saved the lives of our ally's soldiers. Of course we should do it.

[Sir C]

Speaking of recent mil-hist books, what's your take on Dresden?

Bombing the fück out of their cities meant that 30% of the manpower, 50% of the artillery and 70% of the aircraft were withdrawn from the Eastern Front for home defence.

So killing Kraut civilians saved the lives of our ally's soldiers. Of course we should do it.

Have you read the Cazalet Chronicles, g? I recommend them. Important works.

[Burney]

Speaking of recent mil-hist books, what's your take on Dresden?

Bombing the fück out of their cities meant that 30% of the manpower, 50% of the artillery and 70% of the aircraft were withdrawn from the Eastern Front for home defence.

So killing Kraut civilians saved the lives of our ally's soldiers. Of course we should do it.

I'm pretty relaxed about Dresden because it happened in a sincere attempt to end a war we didn't start more quickly, which could only be a good thing. The fault lies with the Nazi regime for continuing a doomed war, not with those who did what they could to bring it to an end. The idea that we should get all upset about the deliberate killing of civilians after six years of total war suggests that critics didn't really understand the concept of total war.

And as for the yanks titting on about 'Precision Bombing' and tut-tutting about Dresden when they were killing hundreds of thousands in Tokyo firestorms, they can fúck off.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I'm pretty relaxed about Dresden because it happened in a sincere attempt to end a war we didn't start more quickly, which could only be a good thing. The fault lies with the Nazi regime for continuing a doomed war, not with those who did what they could to bring it to an end. The idea that we should get all upset about the deliberate killing of civilians after six years of total war suggests that critics didn't really understand the concept of total war.

And as for the yanks titting on about 'Precision Bombing' and tut-tutting about Dresden when they were killing hundreds of thousands in Tokyo firestorms, they can fúck off.

Agree with all that.

We could have knackered the Nazis in the winter of '39/40 had we bombed the fück out of the Saarland and Rhine industrial areas, but we didn't want to be the ones who started the bombing of civilians.

The Nazis started it by accident during the Battle of Britain, when their bombers overshot the airfields and bombed London by mistake.

But Speer said that if we'd done a Dresden every night for five nights on the trot then the war would have ended. We should have pushed harder, imo.