I was hoping for Monty's analysis of the current Arsenal league position.

[Burney]

Except you're misrepresenting what I said.

I didn't say 10 wins in a row would mean that Wenger should stay. I said that 10 wins in a row would change the mood among our fans because, like toddlers, they are unable to rationally regulate their own moods and emotions, and can have them swayed by something as simple as pointing at a plane in the sky or offering them a sweetie.

So I was actually arguing that 10 wins in a row would be a bad reason for Wenger to stay.

I've also, many, many times, said that Wenger leaving could be for the best.

Personally, I'd give him a chance to turn around what looks like being our first ****e season in two decades but maybe I'm just a naive, misty eyed romantic who can't see reality.

Something has gone horribly wrong somewhere. This is substantially the same side who dicked Chelsea earlier in the season and now I would struggle to back us against any team outside the bottom three. There has been a failure somewhere along the line.

[Monty92]

Something has gone horribly wrong somewhere. This is substantially the same side who dicked Chelsea earlier in the season and now I would struggle to back us against any team outside the bottom three. There has been a failure somewhere along the line.

But these kinds of runs are not unheard of in football and do not *necessarily* always mean the manager is incapable of turning the situation around. If anything, the reaction to this run highlights how consistent we've been over the years.

Van Gaal had a similar season with Man Utd. He lost his job because of it, but had he been given a chance to turn it around, it would not have been seen as inexplicable. And unlike Van Gaal, Wenger at least has a history of success at the club in question.

It would be absurd to rule out the possibility that many of our current problems are specifically down to Wenger's mismanagement. But it is equally absurd to rule out the possibility that it isn't as simple as that.

[Peter]

But these kinds of runs are not unheard of in football and do not *necessarily* always mean the manager is incapable of turning the situation around. If anything, the reaction to this run highlights how consistent we've been over the years.

Van Gaal had a similar season with Man Utd. He lost his job because of it, but had he been given a chance to turn it around, it would not have been seen as inexplicable. And unlike Van Gaal, Wenger at least has a history of success at the club in question.

It would be absurd to rule out the possibility that many of our current problems are specifically down to Wenger's mismanagement. But it is equally absurd to rule out the possibility that it isn't as simple as that.

It isn't the season as a whole that is worrying, its the most recent games. Before the last month or so we were just in a familiar three month slump which happens every season. The events of the last month or so are the kind of thing we haven't witnessed in years. Total and complete chaos and a side that doesn't appear to have any idea how to function.

Behind the scenes it has clearly gone horribly wrong and that can be put right over the summer. If Wenger does stay then he must have a screw loose. He is not going to turn this around in two years. For his sake he needs to quit now, as do a number of the squad who have been letting him down for years.

[Burney]

But these kinds of runs are not unheard of in football and do not *necessarily* always mean the manager is incapable of turning the situation around. If anything, the reaction to this run highlights how consistent we've been over the years.

Van Gaal had a similar season with Man Utd. He lost his job because of it, but had he been given a chance to turn it around, it would not have been seen as inexplicable. And unlike Van Gaal, Wenger at least has a history of success at the club in question.

It would be absurd to rule out the possibility that many of our current problems are specifically down to Wenger's mismanagement. But it is equally absurd to rule out the possibility that it isn't as simple as that.

Taken on its own and independent of context, I would probably agree. However, I think the context of the last few years of fan frustration and perceived underachievement is too important to ignore. The hostility to Wenger among the fans is now probably a majority position and this kind of run is seen as vindication for those who have been calling for his head for ages. Add in the fact that there appears to be something wrong between him and his players and you've seen managers sacked for much less.