Anyone know why BT Sport have Triple H previewing Wilder-Fury2

[Sir C]

You don't actually think we as people have changed one iota in the intervening millennia, do you? No, it's just the moral landscape that's changed. We still love a bit of blood. It's just that the killjoy priests wagged their virgin fingers and took away our fun.

Thou hast conquered, O pale Gallilean.
The world has grown grey with thy breath;
We have drunken of things Lethean,
And fed on the fullness of death.

Well yes, I think we absolutely have changed. The type of cruelties towards animals and people which were considered entirely normal in, say, the 16th century are now completely beyond the pale. Very few 'civilised' human beings would argue in favour of bear-baiting or ducking stools - but enjoying the sight of two morons beating each other bloody seems to remain palatable to a section of society. Perhaps the less evolved?

[PSRB]

Well yes, I think we absolutely have changed. The type of cruelties towards animals and people which were considered entirely normal in, say, the 16th century are now completely beyond the pale. Very few 'civilised' human beings would argue in favour of bear-baiting or ducking stools - but enjoying the sight of two morons beating each other bloody seems to remain palatable to a section of society. Perhaps the less evolved?

Pugilism is a fine art, thought you'd have been right behind Marquis of Queensbury.

MMA, less so

[Sir C]

Pugilism is a fine art, thought you'd have been right behind Marquis of Queensbury.

MMA, less so

Attempting to batter someone unconscious isn't art, p. It's brutality.

Watching it is a strangely voyeuristic way to enjoy your sadism.

[Burney]

Attempting to batter someone unconscious isn't art, p. It's brutality.

Watching it is a strangely voyeuristic way to enjoy your sadism.

Surely it's preferable to indulge one's sadism vicariously?

[Sir C]

Surely it's preferable to indulge one's sadism vicariously?

God no. If you're going to wallow in your bloodthirstiness, yoiu could have the simple dignity to go and smash someone in the face yourself and risk a good hiding, otherwise you're a coward as well as a beast.

[Burney]

God no. If you're going to wallow in your bloodthirstiness, yoiu could have the simple dignity to go and smash someone in the face yourself and risk a good hiding, otherwise you're a coward as well as a beast.

But if civilisation is anything it is the triumph of cowardliness. It places less value on physical strength or courage and places more on low cunning and a finely-honed instinct for self-preservation. You can't seek the milksop civilisation of no organised violence and kindness to animals and so forth and value the manly barbarian virtues of courage and honour. The two mindsets are on sharply-divergent paths. Indeed, one could make the argument that the kinder as a society we have become to animals, the more effeminate and cowardly we have become in other areas.

And no, I'm not reading it. It's for chicks.

[Luis Anaconda]

Pugilism is a fine art, thought you'd have been right behind Marquis of Queensbury.

MMA, less so

As opposed to being right behind the Marquis of Queensbury's son which is what got Oscar Wilde into trouble

[PSRB]

As opposed to being right behind the Marquis of Queensbury's son which is what got Oscar Wilde into trouble

Bad Oscar

[Burney]

As opposed to being right behind the Marquis of Queensbury's son which is what got Oscar Wilde into trouble

Yes, although the M of Q was under the rather odd impression that the word in question was 'somdomite' and that young Bosie was being 'somdomised' by Oscar.

[Luis Anaconda]

Yes, although the M of Q was under the rather odd impression that the word in question was 'somdomite' and that young Bosie was being 'somdomised' by Oscar.

Too many rounds in the ring so to speak