I don't think I'd go so far as to call the Xhaka goal a de gea mistake.

[Burney]

I believe some airlines have gounded their fleets pending further investigation, which seems to me sensible, if only for the peace of mind of passengers. Neither Boeing nor the FAA have done so, suggesting they aren't seeing an obvious issue at present.

Aaahhh, I see. I must admit I only read the headline as I was vaguely interested, but not massively arsed.

[Sir C]

Aaahhh, I see. I must admit I only read the headline as I was vaguely interested, but not massively arsed.

If it's true that both aircraft exhibitied the phugoid activity a la AF447, as reported, it would definitely point to a software or pitot issue. That's a pretty big 'if', however, and ignores the mountains of other possible evidence which might reveal the truth.

[Burney]

If it's true that both aircraft exhibitied the phugoid activity a la AF447, as reported, it would definitely point to a software or pitot issue. That's a pretty big 'if', however, and ignores the mountains of other possible evidence which might reveal the truth.

Oooh, I like 'phugoid'. I'm definitely going to use that at some point.