Ramsdale has to come back in now

[7sisters]

You are overstating the degree of his messness and forgetting that Ramsdale was hardly the second coming of Buffon when he was playing. Raya was very good his first few games, some errors have crept in since then, admittedly. What Raya needs now is the support of the manager and the supporters and a run of a few good performances and some clean sheets.

Arteta isn't changing this any time soon. I also read some writer in the Tele recently saying that the 'data' shows that Raya is still performing better than Ramsdale was. No idea what the data is but that's good enough for me

Added to that, Arteta would look pretty silly by recalling Ramsdale at the first signs of a wobble with Raya.
I’m sure most of us are pulling for Ramsdale. There’s a fag paper between them in terms of ability but Ramsdale is far more of a commanding communicator behind the defence, which gives him the edge at this point.
Raya has a touch of the Leno’s about him in that respect.

[Peter]

Added to that, Arteta would look pretty silly by recalling Ramsdale at the first signs of a wobble with Raya.
I’m sure most of us are pulling for Ramsdale. There’s a fag paper between them in terms of ability but Ramsdale is far more of a commanding communicator behind the defence, which gives him the edge at this point.
Raya has a touch of the Leno’s about him in that respect.

I am aware that Arteta is unlikely to change his mind yet. Raya gets the next two games to try and get through 90 minutes without making a total tit of himself. If he doesn't, Arteta has an opportunity with the EFL game to back down quietly or stand his ground.

Courage and a surplus of bright ideas is the price we pay for having Arteta. A price worth paying, certainly, but so far this season it hasn't really been working very well.

[PSRB]

I am aware that Arteta is unlikely to change his mind yet. Raya gets the next two games to try and get through 90 minutes without making a total tit of himself. If he doesn't, Arteta has an opportunity with the EFL game to back down quietly or stand his ground.

Courage and a surplus of bright ideas is the price we pay for having Arteta. A price worth paying, certainly, but so far this season it hasn't really been working very well.

Still unfair on Ramsdale, who I don't think even had a wobble in the 1st place.

[Luis Anaconda]

Still unfair on Ramsdale, who I don't think even had a wobble in the 1st place.

PFA team of the season, nominated for the Yashin award, dropped. Funny old game. Very much in the Ramsdale in camp here

[PSRB]

PFA team of the season, nominated for the Yashin award, dropped. Funny old game. Very much in the Ramsdale in camp here

From all the evidence I've seen, I prefer Ramsdale.

[Luis Anaconda]

From all the evidence I've seen, I prefer Ramsdale.

He also just seems a good bloke. That long article in the Player's Tribune (I think) was very good

[Peter]

He also just seems a good bloke. That long article in the Player's Tribune (I think) was very good

We've got Declan Rice for that now. You don't want too many good blokes in your team

[redgunamo]

Yeah, same here. Nothing against David Raya, of course, but he is a Brentford player, after all.

From all the evidence I've seen, I prefer Ramsdale.

[Pat Vegas]

Yeah, same here. Nothing against David Raya, of course, but he is a Brentford player, after all.

he has that sad look about him.
Almost Almuniaesque.

[Rich]

PFA team of the season, nominated for the Yashin award, dropped. Funny old game. Very much in the Ramsdale in camp here

Ramsdale isn't bad but he's not a top 3 goalkeeper. Not saying Raya is either... but it's an area we should be actively looking to improve in.